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  • Justice For Thee But Not For Me...

    So the leftist District Attorney tried to throw out the charges to protect these radicals, but the judge was not having it - good for him!

    A Massachusetts judge has decided to move forward with charges against several counterprotesters arrested during a "straight pride" parade in Boston this past weekend, despite requests from the district attorney to dismiss the caseshttps://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ade-protesters
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  • #2
    Under what authority are the protesters being prosecuted?

    One would think constitutional originalists would have a problem with this.

    --Sam

    Originally posted by seer View Post
    So the leftist District Attorney tried to throw out the charges to protect these radicals, but the judge was not having it - good for him!
    "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sam View Post
      Under what authority are the protesters being prosecuted?

      One would think constitutional originalists would have a problem with this.

      --Sam
      According to the story, "officers were pelted with rocks, bottles of urine and other unidentified materials as the parade wound down, injuring at least four officers."

      I don't think "orgininalists" would have a problem here.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #4
        Okay, then find me where in the state constitution the judiciary is getting this power of prosecution from.

        --Sam

        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        According to the story, "officers were pelted with rocks, bottles of urine and other unidentified materials as the parade wound down, injuring at least four officers."

        I don't think "orgininalists" would have a problem here.
        "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sam View Post
          Okay, then find me where in the state constitution the judiciary is getting this power of prosecution from.

          --Sam
          Are you under the impression that judges must accept a motion to dismiss?
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • #6
            If the state is not bringing charges in a criminal case, yes. Can you find me something in the MA (or federal, for that matter) constitution that says otherwise? Who's going to prosecute the case?

            --Sam

            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            Are you under the impression that judges must accept a motion to dismiss?
            "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sam View Post
              If the state is not bringing charges in a criminal case, yes. Can you find me something in the MA (or federal, for that matter) constitution that says otherwise? Who's going to prosecute the case?

              --Sam
              Obviously the state prosecutor will be compelled to do their job.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #8
                For the record:



                Great to see just how readily some folks here are ready to put on the jackboots, tho.

                --Sam
                "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                • #9
                  On what authority? Who's deciding what constitutes "their job"? The judge? Find where that power is granted to the judiciary in the constitution.

                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  Obviously the state prosecutor will be compelled to do their job.
                  "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sam View Post
                    Under what authority are the protesters being prosecuted?

                    One would think constitutional originalists would have a problem with this.

                    --Sam
                    The DA's - he requested to drop charges - meaning they were already charged.

                    Edit: double checked the article - at the very bottom, Rollins herself says these guys were already arraigned. The decision to prosecute had already been made.

                    The court has every right to deny the petition - courts are NOT rubber stamps - and once arraigned, the decision belongs to the court.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                      The DA's - he requested to drop charges - meaning they were already charged.

                      Edit: double checked the article - at the very bottom, Rollins herself says these guys were already arraigned. The decision to prosecute had already been made.

                      The court has every right to deny the petition - courts are NOT rubber stamps - and once arraigned, the decision belongs to the court.
                      Right. That was my understanding as well, so I'm not entirely sure what Sam is going on about.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                        The DA's - he requested to drop charges - meaning they were already charged.

                        Edit: double checked the article - at the very bottom, Rollins herself says these guys were already arraigned. The decision to prosecute had already been made.

                        The court has every right to deny the petition - courts are NOT rubber stamps - and once arraigned, the decision belongs to the court.

                        If there's any basis for this in the constitution or case law, y'all are going to have to find it. Barring some showing of corruption or negligence, the judge has no authority to compel the State to pursue charges.


                        --Sam
                        "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                        • #13
                          Sin-nott should be renamed Sin-a-lot. What a disgrace.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sam View Post
                            For the record:



                            Great to see just how readily some folks here are ready to put on the jackboots, tho.

                            --Sam
                            That's a bit over the top, Sam. It's an odd case, but there's usually more than meets the eye.



                            It will be interesting, if the case makes it to court, to see who will actually prosecute the case.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              I'm still looking for more details on this, but it appears the judge is being unduly activist...

                              He even held in contempt an attorney for arguing case law.



                              I'm having a hard time finding legal justification for the judge to order continuing prosecution when the DA's office has, in effect, withdrawn prosecution.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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