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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    I give it a generation before Europe resembles the Middle East.
    Based on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    What is that, exactly?
    That is a completely private thing. And whether it is much or little does not make any difference to the point made. Why so focused on my person?

    Matthew 6:1
    Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
    "This is why in my debates with atheists and agnostics I always try to treat them with charity and civility and not engage in name-calling or insults or even just interruptions. I think that is uncivil discourse." - Dr. William Lane Craig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    Is this the most important question to ask when confronted with people in need? Ideally you don't help others for your own benefit.
    And what is that doing to the countries in question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    What "variety of laws" are we fighting, Sam?
    The entire nature of RFRA laws are built around creating religious exceptions to generally-applicable law.

    We don't hear how Roman Catholics like Rod Dreher are "failing to assimilate", even when they're talking about radical isolation from mainstream culture. Sohrab Ahmari just had a debate with David French where he articulated that USA needs to take a pretty radical theocratic Christianist turn ... but I just didn't hear any complaints about his failure to integrate with society.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    All of that was within the structure of our laws, Sam.
    No, it wasn't. That's why it went to SCOTUS and that's why SCOTUS had to invent a new form of corporate personhood, for the first time holding that a company could have religious scruples by virtue of its owners, so long as that company is "closely held".

    But things look different when we're the beneficiary, I'll grant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Unlike millions of others who have come to America, for example, to "be Americans" -- like my Nigerian friends.
    Right like my three friends from Jamaica, all Christian BTW. They have all assimilated well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    What ethnic migration study shows this?

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    An analysis of surveys conducted among Muslim migrants in Europe shows that the majority of them value sharia law over national law and believe in the supremacy of Islam over other religions, according to Gatestone Institute.

    Citing a recent study done by Ednan Aslan, professor of Islamic Religious Education at the University of Vienna, the Institute reported that for more than 51 percent of the interviewees, the supremacy of Islam over other religions is undisputed, and 55 percent believe in hell for unbelievers.

    Aslan interviewed a sample of 288 of the roughly 4,000 predominantly Afghan asylum seekers in the Austrian city of Graz, on behalf of the city's integration department.

    Another 2016 study in the U.K. showed that 43 percent of British Muslims "believed that parts of the Islamic legal system should replace British law while only 22 percent opposed the idea," the Institute highlighted.

    https://www.christianpost.com/news/m...-analysis.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    An analysis of surveys conducted among Muslim migrants in Europe shows that the majority of them value sharia law over national law and believe in the supremacy of Islam over other religions, according to Gatestone Institute.

    Citing a recent study done by Ednan Aslan, professor of Islamic Religious Education at the University of Vienna, the Institute reported that for more than 51 percent of the interviewees, the supremacy of Islam over other religions is undisputed, and 55 percent believe in hell for unbelievers.

    Aslan interviewed a sample of 288 of the roughly 4,000 predominantly Afghan asylum seekers in the Austrian city of Graz, on behalf of the city's integration department.

    Another 2016 study in the U.K. showed that 43 percent of British Muslims "believed that parts of the Islamic legal system should replace British law while only 22 percent opposed the idea," the Institute highlighted.

    https://www.christianpost.com/news/m...-analysis.html
    "Citing a recent study done by Ednan Aslan, professor of Islamic Religious Education at the University of Vienna, the Institute reported that for more than 51 percent of the interviewees, the supremacy of Islam over other religions is undisputed, and 55 percent believe in hell for unbelievers."

    Wow, these people would never fit in here in America!

    Without even bothering about the sourcing, can you seriously not see how easily you could replace the labels here with "white Evangelicals"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    What ethnic migration study shows this?

    --Sam
    I'm looking at results like neighborhoods where Sharia law is enforced

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    I'm looking at results like neighborhoods where Sharia law is enforced
    Which neighborhoods and how would you determine the chain of causation?

    Scientifically, don't you recognize the massive assumptions inherent in your method?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Which neighborhoods and how would you determine the chain of causation?

    Scientifically, don't you recognize the massive assumptions inherent in your method?

    --Sam
    Are you being deliberately obtuse?

    I'm always still in trouble again

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