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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Slavery wasn't unconstitutional Jim.
    It was if you read the Constitution properly. "All men are created equal-life liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
    And how in the hell do you think they purposefully separated church from state, while simultaneously allowing all of the things you say they were outlawing, like monuments in public buildings, even a church in the capitol building, opening congress with a prayer and having chaplains in government and the military?
    As I said, James Madison, the main author of the Constitution warned against such practices but they were the tradition of the times which like slavery continued for some time regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    It was if you read the Constitution properly. "All men are created equal-life liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
    That wasn't in the Constitution James...
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    It was if you read the Constitution properly. "All men are created equal-life liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
    The problem is that you're too ignorant to know the difference between the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence - WHICH, by the way, invokes God numerous times.
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Madison was one man, Jimmy. And the "government" had, at its very founding, chaplains and prayers and all manner of religious vestige.

    You seem absolutely determined to wrongly interpret the "wall of separation" -- it is clear to anybody with a function brain that Jefferson was responding to the Danbury Baptist Association's concern that there would be a "national" or "state religion". Jefferson was assuring him there would be religious liberty.
    So, you should understand then by that letter that Jefferson was clearly saying that there would be no government sactioned religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    So, you should understand then by that letter that Jefferson was clearly saying that there would be no government sactioned religion.
    No Jim, they simply did not want a state religion where one was compelled to join. Like what England had...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    The problem is that you're too ignorant to know the difference between the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence - WHICH, by the way, invokes God numerous times.
    Yes, my error, but they go together, the one informing the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    So, you should understand then by that letter that Jefferson was clearly saying that there would be no government sactioned religion.
    I've maintained that all along. Jimmy, are you on drugs? You seem to be forgetting what your argument is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Yes, my error, but they go together, the one informing the other.
    So Jim you believe we are all CREATED equal by God?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Yes, my error, but they go together, the one informing the other.


    What a pantload. So, JEFFERSON is recognized as a primary contributor to the DoI, which invokes God or Creator numerous times.

    Ya got the wrong author and the wrong document, and the wrong argument.

    STRIKE THREE!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    So Jim you believe we are all CREATED equal by God?
    I don't believe in a god seer, I'm sure you know that by now.

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