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Originally posted by rogue06
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They abandon biology - one of the "hard sciences" and turn to psychology and sociology and other "soft sciences".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him. -
My wife was so excited when "we became pregnant", and grieved at the "loss of our first baby". She had already decorated the nursery, and prepared for his arrival.
I can just imagine Tassman standing before her and explaining how silly it is to grieve, as it was just a blob of cells.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --TassmanComment
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; OrthodoxyComment
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It doesn't matter how one defines it, there can be no justification for the current US trend in abortion circles for fighting for the 'right' to do abortions for any reason through the end of pregnancy. But neither side wants science to get involved, because science can't justify calling a fetus at one day of gestation a 'person', any more than it can it justify calling one at 5 months or later (current age of viability outside the womb) NOT a person. And the reality is, any scientific definition of when a fetus transitions scientifically from something not quite a person to a person will be way too early in the process to make any American advocate for abortion comfortable.Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19Comment
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Person is a legal term, not a scientific one so....Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; OrthodoxyComment
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That's exactly what I meant by ignoring the hard sciences like biology and going after a philosophical or legal term instead.Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
The science would also include the remarkable imaging where we can actually see the baby in the womb that looks far more like a human being than "a clump of cells".
One of the most powerful tools we have in our pregnancy center to encourage women not to abort is the scientific equipment where they can actually see the human life inside them.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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"Person" is the term to which the culture of death has had to retreat because they can no longer argue "human life".Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; OrthodoxyComment
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; OrthodoxyComment
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It isn't a pro-abortion crowd, it's a pro choice crowd, meaning that it is no one elses business what any woman decides to do with her own body. You don't have to agree with her, but you are not her, it's her body, her life, and her business. It's true that the fetus could become a human person at some point during the pregnancy, and that time has been determined by the court. To argue, as many do, that it becomes a human person at conception is ridiculous.Comment
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But you remember when the Democrats were touting the "safe, legal and rare" claims?Originally posted by JimL View Post
It's come a long since then, and I believe the case could easily be made that it is, indeed, a PRO-abortion crowd, Jim
Wen was fired because she wasn't pro-abortion ENOUGH.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Abortion is safer and rarer due to it's being legal.Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostComment
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Last edited by Cow Poke; 10-22-2019, 07:23 PM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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And here's another reason why that's a flat out lie. Note, I'm not calling YOU a liar - you're simply repeating what you evidently believe to be true.Originally posted by JimL View Post
When a person comes to our PRO-LIFE pregnancy center, they are encouraged to CHOOSE LIFE. At last count, over 93% do. We unashamedly encourage LIFE, because we are PRO-LIFE. Apologetically.
On the other hand, when somebody goes to a supposedly "pro-choice" clinic, are they really given a choice? Are they presented with both the pros and cons of abortion?
And the vast majority of persons who go to a "pro-choice" clinic end up with abortions. Why? Because Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion provider in the world, is not really interested in "choice", but in doing the abortion.
Planned Parenthood is, indeed, PRO-ABORTION.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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