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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Supreme court judges can nullify laws and reverse previous decisions, right?
    That's not "changing the law".

    That's two solutions to two different problems, not two solutions to one problem.
    Well, then, God forbid that we solve two problems at once!

    Anyway, it misses the point. A better analogy would be if you can't afford the bus fare so hijack the bus instead.
    I'd still give you a cheeseburger, Roy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    It won't if you don't even try.

    Since when was abortion or discrimination "politics" anyway?
    sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Well, no. That's the strategy we're trying to defeat. The left has been subverting the legal process for years. Conservatives, pretty much by definition don't agitate for change (other than change back to the status quo ante).
    A quick check of the supreme court members when Roe v Wade was passed suggests that there was neither a Republican-Democrat nor a conservative-liberal split in that vote. I don't see anything that suggests RvW was a result of the left subverting the legal process.

    And even if it was, since when did "they did it first" become a legitimate excuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    That's not "changing the law".
    Removing a law because it is considered unconstitutional is definitely changing the law.
    I'd still give you a cheeseburger, Roy.
    I'd rather have a doner kebab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Removing a law because it is considered unconstitutional is definitely changing the law.
    Well, if it's unconstitutional, it NEEDS to be removed, eh?
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Just a side note:

    Supreme Court allows broad enforcement of Trump asylum rule

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court is allowing nationwide enforcement of a new Trump administration rule that prevents most Central American migrants from seeking asylum in the United States.

    7-2 BTW
    7-2 means that even some of the court's liberals voted in favor of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    7-2 means that even some of the court's liberals voted in favor of it.
    Yep!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    A quick check of the supreme court members when Roe v Wade was passed suggests that there was neither a Republican-Democrat nor a conservative-liberal split in that vote. I don't see anything that suggests RvW was a result of the left subverting the legal process.
    Whatever it was, the decision was certainly not conservative, however you purport to "quickly check" the justices involved.

    And even if it was, since when did "they did it first" become a legitimate excuse?
    Lemme know when you figure out that I'm as much against that as you ostensibly are. I want conservative justices to correct the gross misreading of the Constitution that was Roe v. Wade, not create further errors supporting positions with which I happen to agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Whatever it was, the decision was certainly not conservative, however you purport to "quickly check" the justices involved.


    Lemme know when you figure out that I'm as much against that as you ostensibly are. I want conservative justices to correct the gross misreading of the Constitution that was Roe v. Wade, not create further errors supporting positions with which I happen to agree.
    Out of curiosity, would you be in support of a hypothetical overturning of Roe that went completely in the other direction, i.e. finding that the Constitution affirmatively prohibits abortion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    Out of curiosity, would you be in support of a hypothetical overturning of Roe that went completely in the other direction, i.e. finding that the Constitution affirmatively prohibits abortion?
    I would, though what is likely to happen is that the question will be returned to the states - where it belonged.
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