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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd, since over half of the unborn are female, this 'women's right to choose' to kill their baby disproportionally targets future women!
Strange cult, this culture of death.
When the Roe decision was handed down, W. A. Criswell, the Southern Baptist Convention’s former president and pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas—also one of the most famous fundamentalists of the 20th century—was pleased: “I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person,” he said, “and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.” https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...#ixzz37ZUUJbXwLast edited by Charles; 10-21-2019, 10:49 AM."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostYes, it is a strange cult. Some of the Southern Baptists seemed to like it:The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAh, picking up on Tassy's hobbyhorse, eh? That's ancient news, Charles, but thanks for trying.
While Criswell’s earlier views may have been the most public, he wasn’t alone in holding them. Wayne Dehoney, SBC president for two terms in the 1960s and longtime pastor of Walnut Street Baptist Church in Louisville, Ky., described “a basic watershed between Protestant and Catholic theology on two questions — the morality of birth control, of which abortion is another form, and the question of when life begins.”
“Protestant theology generally takes Genesis 2:7 as a statement that the soul is formed at breath, not conception,” Dehoney said.
That’s what W.O. Vaught, pastor of Immanuel Baptist Church in Little Rock, Ark., told his most famous parishioner, President Bill Clinton.
In his 2004 autobiography, My Life, Clinton remembered Vaught telling him that while abortion was usually wrong, the Bible did not condemn it. Vaught said the Bible teaches that life begins not at conception but when life has been “breathed into” a baby after delivery.
“I asked him about the biblical statement that God knows us even when we are in our mother’s womb,” Clinton wrote. “He replied that the verse simply refers to God being omniscient, and that it might as well have said God knew us even before we were in our mother’s womb, even before anyone in our direct line was born.” https://baptistnews.com/article/evan...hicken-or-egg/A 1973 Baptist Press news analysis said there was no official Southern Baptist position on abortion. “Among 12 million Southern Baptists, there are probably 12 million different opinions,” observed BP Washington bureau chief Barry Garrett. https://baptistnews.com/article/evan...hicken-or-egg/"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostHobbyhorse?
Charles, Southern Baptist Churches are notoriously autonomous. We don't have a pope.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostHobbyhorse? I wonder how you would even allow to use such words about the situation. Anyway, it seems the Southern Baptists have had a very hard time figuring out their opinion with regard to abortion:"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI wasn’t aware that all Southern Baptist walked in lock step.
A 1973 Baptist Press news analysis said there was no official Southern Baptist position on abortion. “Among 12 million Southern Baptists, there are probably 12 million different opinions,” observed BP Washington bureau chief Barry Garrett. https://baptistnews.com/article/evan...hicken-or-egg/"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostThis is where I really wonder if you read the post."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHobbyhorse.
Charles, Southern Baptist Churches are notoriously autonomous. We don't have a pope.
Baptist News Global has this interesting point to make:
Everyone agrees that evangelicals, including Southern Baptists, were late to the pro-life cause, but not everyone agrees about the reason. https://baptistnews.com/article/evan...hicken-or-egg/"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostAnd again, why are Southern Baptist required to walk in lock step? I don’t care what one opinion is, so why are you acting as though we should?"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI never claimed they should. Once again you answer indicates you simply did not read the post."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI’m just waiting for your point. Got one?"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostMany, but you need to read my posts to see them. So far all you have said has indicated that you simply did not read or did not understand them. If you ask questions that reflect an actual reading, I will be happy to answer."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI wasn’t aware that all Southern Baptist walked in lock step.
A) the autonomy of the local church
2) the priesthood of every believerThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI never claimed they should. Once again you answer indicates you simply did not read the post.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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