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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewhitney View Post
    What I hate most is how Trump has put Congress members into internment camps and how he burned down the capital building in Sacramento? This is unacceptable behavior for any president. How can people just let this happen without condemning President Trump? If you are are real Christian you have to stop this from happening!

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    It looks like the whistleblower complaint may have something to do with President Trump asking the Ukrainian government to look into Joe Biden's sketchy relationship with that country...

    The mysterious “whistleblower” case now looks like a coordinated Democrat effort to block any investigation of presidential candidate Joe Biden for corrupt pressure on Ukraine to drop the investigation of Burisma, an energy company operating in the country, on which his son Hunter Biden was a board member.

    In March 2016, then Vice-President Joe Biden warned Ukraine that $1 billion in loan guarantees would be withheld by the U.S. unless they replaced Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor general who was investigating Hunter Biden. Ukraine did remove Shokin, and the prosecution was dropped. It looks like a clear case of a quid-pro-quo.

    However, as things are starting to shake out, the current obfuscation to protect Joe Biden is President Trump asking Ukraine’s new president Volodymyr Zelensky to take another look at the issues surrounding the former government’s decision to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor. This is presumably the call concerning to the whistleblower. To wit, democrats see this as Trump asking Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    It looks like the whistleblower complaint may have something to do with President Trump asking the Ukrainian government to look into Joe Biden's sketchy relationship with that country...

    The mysterious “whistleblower” case now looks like a coordinated Democrat effort to block any investigation of presidential candidate Joe Biden for corrupt pressure on Ukraine to drop the investigation of Burisma, an energy company operating in the country, on which his son Hunter Biden was a board member.

    In March 2016, then Vice-President Joe Biden warned Ukraine that $1 billion in loan guarantees would be withheld by the U.S. unless they replaced Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor general who was investigating Hunter Biden. Ukraine did remove Shokin, and the prosecution was dropped. It looks like a clear case of a quid-pro-quo.

    However, as things are starting to shake out, the current obfuscation to protect Joe Biden is President Trump asking Ukraine’s new president Volodymyr Zelensky to take another look at the issues surrounding the former government’s decision to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor. This is presumably the call concerning to the whistleblower. To wit, democrats see this as Trump asking Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...investigation/
    Right and the Justice Dept should look into it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Not much one can say to that, except that trump was correct when he said he could shoot someone in broad daylight and he wouldn't lose any of his supporters.

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    It would depend on who he shot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Not much one can say to that, except that trump was correct when he said he could shoot someone in broad daylight and he wouldn't lose any of his supporters.

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    right over the head it goes. Oxmix to bad for you none of what Mike said happened. did you even read Mike's post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Right and the Justice Dept should look into it...
    If there were something to be investigated then it should be investigated by the U.S. government, not by bribing a foriegn government to find dirt on the son of a political opponent. The monies he witheld from Ukraine were targeted to defend them against the Russian aggression on their eastern border. Trump has also cancelled aid targeted to other eastern european countries threatened by Russian aggression. Odd how Trumps actions seem to be in the best interests of Putin and Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    If there were something to be investigated then it should be investigated by the U.S. government, not by bribing a foriegn government to find dirt on the son of a political opponent. The monies he witheld from Ukraine were targeted to defend them against the Russian aggression on their eastern border. Trump has also cancelled aid targeted to other eastern european countries threatened by Russian aggression. Odd how Trumps actions seem to be in the best interests of Putin and Russia.
    But Russia hates the President of the Ukraine, he is anti Putin - yet Trump is making deals with him to help Russia? The fact is it looks like Biden did shut down an investigation into a company his son was involved with by threatening to withhold monies.


    Two years after leaving office, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation last year to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor.

    In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

    “I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RumTumTugger View Post
    right over the head it goes. Oxmix to bad for you none of what Mike said happened. did you even read Mike's post?
    Yeah - I knew one of you would be stupid enough to think I didn't understand the historical reference Mike was making.

    But rather it is you that doesn't understand that dismissal of Mike's is just the sort of excuse making I'd expect from a person that would turn the other way even if Trump shot someone in broad daylight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    It would depend on who he shot.

    too bad that isn't actually a joke for many people in Trump's camp.

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    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    But Russia hates the President of the Ukraine, he is anti Putin - yet Trump is making deals with him to help Russia? The fact is it looks like Biden did shut down an investigation into a company his son was involved with by threatening to withhold monies.
    The reason for that was because the Prosecutor was corrupt and there were widespread protest throughout Ukraine demanding his firing. That's why Biden was openly boasting about getting him fired. Not giving a corrupt government 1 billion is not the same thing as withholding bi-partison aid in order that the government dig up dirt on a political opponent.

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