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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI have no idea how you got all of that out of my comment, but it made me laugh, so it wasn't a complete waste of time.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThe accusation I have ever questioned anyone's claim to Christian faith or their salvation is a lie.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostPerhaps not directly, but you have on numerous occasions questioned how anyone who calls himself a Christian could ever disagree with you, which certainly implies that someone's faith may not be genuine.
What I have done us call into question the compatibility of a position or idea with Christian faith or doctrine. And I usually explain where I see the conflict. Many people take that personally, but it is not meant to be personal. It is meant to bring to light what may be being overlooked. It is something I hope others will do to me if I get off track, and it is always possible I am wrong. All that I ask or expect from such comments is that people look inward to see if I have a point, or that they offer a reasoned explanation of why what I observe as a conflict is not one. But that is rarely the response I get.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostYet here we are, attempting intelligent and objective conversation in a Civics thread started by JimL. I guess we never learn, either.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostYou persist in this kind of misrepresentation of other's positions; attack their integrity, morality and question their very salvation on the basis of that misrepresentation; and then act surprised when they attack you in response.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWhat I have done us call into question the compatibility of a position or idea with Christian faith or doctrine.
Example 1 in which you accuse someone of borderline blasphemy for disagreeing with you.
Example 2 in which you declare that those who disagree with you are callous and hard-hearted.
Example 3 in which you call those who disagree with you "little demons".
And that's just from one relatively short thread...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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On topic, there is so far no independent corroboration of this story. Every story I've seen references the original Washington Post article, and it seems it hasn't gone any further than that.
Trump, for his part, made the reasonable point that he knows that any phone conversation with a foreign leader is monitored by numerous people on both sides of the call, and that only an idiot would speak inappropriately under those circumstances. And despite what Trump's ardent critics would have you believe, the man is, in fact, not an idiot.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostOn topic, there is so far no independent corroboration of this story. Every story I've seen references the original Washington Post article, and it seems it hasn't gone any further than that.
Trump, for his part, made the reasonable point that he knows that any phone conversation with a foreign leader is monitored by numerous people on both sides of the call, and that only an idiot would speak inappropriately under those circumstances. And despite what Trump's ardent critics would have you believe, the man is, in fact, not an idiot.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe problem is that you believe that your understanding and characterization of certain policy positions and ideas, and that your application of scripture is necessarily correct, and when we don't immediately agree, you cluck your tongue and wonder how any True ChristianTM could possibly hold a contrary opinion.
Example 1 in which you accuse someone of borderline blasphemy for disagreeing with you.
Example 2 in which you declare that those who disagree with you are callous and hard-hearted.
Example 3 in which you call those who disagree with you "little demons".
And that's just from one relatively short thread...
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe problem is that you believe that your understanding and characterization of certain policy positions and ideas, and that your application of scripture is necessarily correct, and when we don't immediately agree, you cluck your tongue and wonder how any True ChristianTM could possibly hold a contrary opinion.
Example 1 in which you accuse someone of borderline blasphemy for disagreeing with you.
Example 2 in which you declare that those who disagree with you are callous and hard-hearted.
Example 3 in which you call those who disagree with you "little demons".
And that's just from one relatively short thread...
in 1) sparko said:
[CITE=example1]What about the passages where God has the Israelites kill every alien man, woman and child and take their land and possessions? That seems pretty parallel with the verses you are quoting about welcoming aliens. Why don't we just invade Mexico and take everything after killing them all? That sounds biblical and it is talking about aliens and alien landsA Christian in every way in normal life that turns into a little demon when they start typing on the computer,
I didn't call anyone a little demon. I said that is what they act like posting on this website. Have you every read the opening chapter of the book of James?
And it is true. People act on the internet like they would NEVER act in real life.
NONE of the above are as you paint them MM. And Nothing about them calls into question the actual salvation or sincerity in their faith of anyone. It does point out INCONSISTENCIES in how they are expressing that faith in politics and how they act here on these pages. Inconsistencies that are real and problematic.
None of this is about 'people disagreeing with me'.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYeah they are jumping the gun again, in their desperate attempt to condemn Trump. Probably think he promised Putin California as a birthday present or something.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYeah they are jumping the gun again, in their desperate attempt to condemn Trump. Probably think he promised Putin California as a birthday present or something.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThis is absurd. Saying that supporting Trump refusal to submit to the law is dangerous to our country has nothing to do with anyone's salvation or even necessarily their integrity. It has to do with their blindness to the effect of what he is doing and their ability to be seduced by the promises and lies of this President. If you believe that one can not call out a mistake, or an error, without 'questioning a persons salvation' then you are most completely wrong. We are commanded to go to a brother and confront them with their sin of we see a brother in sin. The statement above would equate that with questioning their salvation.
"A fool refuses wise counsel", The Proverbs are filled with sayings that show we must be able to take rebuke or harsh advice. Only fools refuse to be corrected or to be called out on a mistake. Not one of has the internal objectivity to stay on the correct path without external correction.
Jim
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostWhat I hate most is how Trump has put Congress members into internment camps and how he burned down the capital building in Sacramento? This is unacceptable behavior for any president. How can people just let this happen without condemning President Trump? If you are are real Christian you have to stop this from happening!
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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