U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked in 10 Years.

[rogue06]

Example...

More kids are getting time off to protest climate change than in previous years.

[Sparko]

Who are "they"? How many people are we talking about and are "they" the same persons today as over 30 years back? If "It might be real" perhaps it is a rather bad idea to dismiss what is said today because of what was said 30 years ago...

Chuck, leave my thread. You are not welcome here.

[Sparko]

Global Warming and Climate Change is the same as Climate Change and Global Warming.

Indeed.

[seer]

More kids are getting time off to protest climate change than in previous years.

That's it! Little climate radicals....

[Sparko]

MM, I don't think is it 'either or' (false dichotomy). The world is warming, it is a problem, and some entities (politicians, for profit companies etc) are using the issue and the debate over it to gain financially and/or manipulate their constituency.

Yep. That's my biggest problem. As I said, after talking to Lurch, I do believe we have a problem with warming. But I don't think it is nearly as bad as the MSM and Politicians (and the UN it seems) makes it out to be. The politicians have locked onto this "crisis" like a dog with a bone and they use it to gain power and money.

[oxmixmudd]

The Earth warms, and the Earth cools. It has been this way since God said, "Let there be light." Right now we are holding more or less steady and have been for a couple of decades, but at some point in the future there will be a period of warming or cooling. It's as natural as the rotation of the Earth and nothing to be alarmed about.

MM - no they have not. They have risen .6 degrees C since 1990. There was a bit of a slow down 2003 to 2010, but research on that phenomenon shows it was cause by a transfer of heat to the oceans. Which is just part of who warming proceeds. It is back to fairly steep growth since then.

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I'm not going to make any comments about why I think you prefer to listen to 'tobacco science' over real science, but the bold/italic statement or yours above is quite simply false, and further this is not any sort of warming that can be relegated to any 'natural' warming seen in the past.

Jim

[seer]

Well at least one leftist admits it...

Radiohead frontman Thom Yorke has admitted he’s a “hypocrite” for flying around the world while campaigning as an eco-warrior.

“The thing I’ve always struggled somewhat with is that if I’m campaigning on climate change, I’m someone who has to fly for my work, so, boom, I’m a hypocrite,” the Friends of the Earth activist told the BBC radio show “Desert Island Discs.”

“I totally agree I’m a hypocrite, but I’m trying to do something about it, and yes, you’re right, I’m a hypocrite.”

The rocker’s admission comes amid increasing criticism of celebs painting themselves as eco-crusaders while leaving a far bigger carbon footprint than those they lecture.

The backlash was most noticeable when many of the biggest A-list names in the world — including former President Barack Obama, Prince Harry, Leonardo DiCaprio and Katy Perry — went to the so-called Google Camp eco party in Italy this summer, with at least 114 private jets reportedly taking guests to the opulent Verdura Resort.

Yorke still believes that politicians are more responsible than celebs, however.

“You can do stuff but the real stuff has to happen in Parliament and the UN, and has to happen now, we’re out of time,” he told the radio show.

https://pagesix.com/2019/09/22/radio...nge-hypocrite/

[shunyadragon]

The actual predictive element on which this article is based is 1 to 7 'degrees' in 30 years. Which is now. 1 to 7 has to be F, there has never been a prediction of 7 C in such a short period of time. Given that, the actual rise in that same period is about 1.1 F, which is the low end, but still in the specified interval. Further, there were two elements unknown at the time that pushed thing to the low end. One was the low sunspot activity of the last 2 solar periods. The other was a cycle of oceanic warming - a period of higher than normal heat transfer from the atmosphere to the oceans.

So the science on which the predictions was base is sound. But the predictions are clearly worst case.

For now, basically, we've been given a pass. But right now we are seeing GREATER ice melt than worst case predictions. And if we see factors that favor accelerated warming toward the higher side of predictions rather than the low side as was the last 30 years, your perspective on predictions would be seen as naive.

But I do agree, on the whole, there is a tendency toward overplaying the potential immediate threat. It's a slow process, with a lot of inertia. We may well be beyond reversal for a very, very long time no matter what we do. Which was the point of the article. But the real cost and impact of that fact may not start really costing a lot of money and impacting a large population in low lying area for another 20 or 30 years

Keeping in mind that the drastic effect in the arctic is NOW. And that melting permafrost will add large amounts of CO2 in concert with our own emissions, you may just find that this article is in fact a good bit more accurate than it appears superficially.

jim

The frog in the pot as the water is slowly heated.

[seer]

[Sparko]

^That.

[seer]

^That.

Right...

[Charles]

^That.

Lomborg is a very talented and interesting person.

[seer]

Lomborg is a very talented and interesting person.

And right...

[Charles]

And right...

There is a lot you would disagree with him about on other topics, though.

[seer]

There is a lot you would disagree with him about on other topics, though.

For instance?