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The story of Hunter Biden’s foray into Ukraine
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIn his defense, Joe would claim that wasn't a discussion, but a warning.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI thought Biden was Obama's VP and not Slick Willy'sThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJust mere hours ago, we were reminiscing on how much we missed Bill, and here ya go callin him names.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt's an endearing nickname that has been much earned -- much like nincompoopiehead is yours (well, and Sparko's as well).
ETA: Wow, as well as Austin, San Antonio and Oklahoma City!!!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Getting to grips with the complicated background:
Lawfare 457, Ukraine, podcast.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostGetting to grips with the complicated background:
Lawfare 457, Ukraine, podcast.
ff, I think you've been told this before -- you can't just throw out something like that - you have to give a summary or idea what it's about.
And if you're going to provide a cite, include the cite!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I guess they just couldn't find any dirt on Biden in his nearly 50 years as an elected official as one of the least wealthy members of Congress. So they decided the only way to smear him was to connect Biden and his official duties as VP to his sons private business. What Biden did in Ukraine was to follow the orders of his Boss, period. Whatever Hunter Biden was up to, guilty or innocent, is irrelevant to that.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'd point out that you are "arguing by weblink", but you failed to provide the link.
ff, I think you've been told this before -- you can't just throw out something like that - you have to give a summary or idea what it's about.
And if you're going to provide a cite, include the cite!
The first two years of the Trump presidency were tied up with the Russia scandal. Now, there’s another scandal involving Russia’s next-door neighbor: Ukraine. The revelation that President Trump and his envoys pressured the Ukrainian government for information about debunked claims of Biden family corruption in Ukraine have brought Ukrainian domestic politics onto the American stage. The Ukrainian side of this very American scandal is complicated yet vital to understanding the whistleblower complaint and the reality of what happened with the Ukrainian prosecutor and Joe Biden’s son. Quinta Jurecic sat down with Alina Polyakova, the Director of the Project on Global Democracy and Emerging Technology at the Brookings Institution to break it all down. They talked about recent Ukrainian political developments, what exactly Joe Biden did or didn’t do in Ukraine, and what this might mean for the U.S.-Ukraine relationship going forward.
When the executive is peddling false information, all the time, you have to know where to find reliable information. I am happy to help in that regard.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostI guess they just couldn't find any dirt on Biden in his nearly 50 years as an elected official...
(Is that how the argument goes? I'll admit, I have trouble thinking down to the level of the average liberal.)Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'd point out that you are "arguing by weblink", but you failed to provide the link.
ff, I think you've been told this before -- you can't just throw out something like that - you have to give a summary or idea what it's about.
And if you're going to provide a cite, include the cite!
He's said before this is some kind of phone thing. I, on the other hand, am a touch typist, and will never be guilty of typing in all thumbs. (Because thumbs are only a quarter as efficient in hitting the wrong keys.)
The first two years of the Trump presidency were tied up with the Russia scandal. Now, there’s another scandal involving Russia’s next-door neighbor: Ukraine. The revelation that President Trump and his envoys pressured the Ukrainian government for information about debunked claims of Biden family corruption in Ukraine have brought Ukrainian domestic politics onto the American stage. The Ukrainian side of this very American scandal is complicated yet vital to understanding the whistleblower complaint and the reality of what happened with the Ukrainian prosecutor and Joe Biden’s son. Quinta Jurecic sat down with Alina Polyakova, the Director of the Project on Global Democracy and Emerging Technology at the Brookings Institution, to break it all down. They talked about recent Ukrainian political developments, what exactly Joe Biden did or didn’t do in Ukraine, and what this might mean for the U.S.-Ukraine relationship going forward.
It's from October 1, which is almost a lifetime ago in terms of the Ukraine scandal, but it's still a good backgrounder.
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"The revelation that President Trump and his envoys pressured the Ukrainian government..."
This is unequivocally false. The transcript shows there was no pressure. The former US Special Envoy to the Ukraine says that Joe Biden was never a topic of discussion. The Ukraine president and his foreign minister are both on record saying there was no pressure.
That Lawfare (LOL-fare?) continues to promote this false narrative reveals an abject lack of credibility.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThat's only because we haven't done enough investigations! We need to investigate to figure out whatcrimes he might have committedwe oughta be investigating!
(Is that how the argument goes? I'll admit, I have trouble thinking down to the level of the average liberal.)
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThat's only because we haven't done enough investigations! We need to investigate to figure out what crimes he might have committed!
(Is that how the argument goes? I'll admit, I have trouble thinking down to the level of the average liberal.)
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