The story of Hunter Biden’s foray into Ukraine

[Cow Poke]

From the New Yorker magazine a little over two months ago:

Source: Will Hunter Biden Jeopardize His Father’s Campaign?

...

In December, 2015, as Joe Biden prepared to return to Ukraine, his aides braced for renewed scrutiny of Hunter’s relationship with Burisma. Amos Hochstein, the Obama Administration’s special envoy for energy policy, raised the matter with Biden, but did not go so far as to recommend that Hunter leave the board. As Hunter recalled, his father discussed Burisma with him just once: “Dad said, ‘I hope you know what you are doing,’ and I said, ‘I do.’ ”


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As the Daily Mail's political editor David Martosko pointed out:

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In his defense, Joe would claim that wasn't a discussion, but a warning.

[rogue06]

In his defense, Joe would claim that wasn't a discussion, but a warning.

I thought Biden was Obama's VP and not Slick Willy's

[Cow Poke]

I thought Biden was Obama's VP and not Slick Willy's

Just mere hours ago, we were reminiscing on how much we missed Bill, and here ya go callin him names.

[rogue06]

Just mere hours ago, we were reminiscing on how much we missed Bill, and here ya go callin him names.

It's an endearing nickname that has been much earned -- much like nincompoopiehead is yours (well, and Sparko's as well).

[Cow Poke]

It's an endearing nickname that has been much earned -- much like nincompoopiehead is yours (well, and Sparko's as well).

There are actually a number of pool halls in Houston named Slick Willy's.

ETA: Wow, as well as Austin, San Antonio and Oklahoma City!!!

[firstfloor]

Getting to grips with the complicated background:
Lawfare 457, Ukraine, podcast.

[Cow Poke]

Getting to grips with the complicated background:
Lawfare 457, Ukraine, podcast.

I'd point out that you are "arguing by weblink", but you failed to provide the link.

ff, I think you've been told this before -- you can't just throw out something like that - you have to give a summary or idea what it's about.

And if you're going to provide a cite, include the cite!

[JimL]

I guess they just couldn't find any dirt on Biden in his nearly 50 years as an elected official as one of the least wealthy members of Congress. So they decided the only way to smear him was to connect Biden and his official duties as VP to his sons private business. What Biden did in Ukraine was to follow the orders of his Boss, period. Whatever Hunter Biden was up to, guilty or innocent, is irrelevant to that.

[firstfloor]

I'd point out that you are "arguing by weblink", but you failed to provide the link.

ff, I think you've been told this before -- you can't just throw out something like that - you have to give a summary or idea what it's about.

And if you're going to provide a cite, include the cite!

A couple of things; I am not making an argument but simply informing other puzzled readers, that I found this source useful. The ‘show’ notes are as follows:

The first two years of the Trump presidency were tied up with the Russia scandal. Now, there’s another scandal involving Russia’s next-door neighbor: Ukraine. The revelation that President Trump and his envoys pressured the Ukrainian government for information about debunked claims of Biden family corruption in Ukraine have brought Ukrainian domestic politics onto the American stage. The Ukrainian side of this very American scandal is complicated yet vital to understanding the whistleblower complaint and the reality of what happened with the Ukrainian prosecutor and Joe Biden’s son. Quinta Jurecic sat down with Alina Polyakova, the Director of the Project on Global Democracy and Emerging Technology at the Brookings Institution to break it all down. They talked about recent Ukrainian political developments, what exactly Joe Biden did or didn’t do in Ukraine, and what this might mean for the U.S.-Ukraine relationship going forward.

I have looked for a web address but not found one. The Lawfare podcast is easily found for anyone interested.

When the executive is peddling false information, all the time, you have to know where to find reliable information. I am happy to help in that regard.

[Mountain Man]

I guess they just couldn't find any dirt on Biden in his nearly 50 years as an elected official...

That's only because we haven't done enough investigations! We need to investigate to figure out what crimes he might have committed!



(Is that how the argument goes? I'll admit, I have trouble thinking down to the level of the average liberal.)

[Juvenal]

I'd point out that you are "arguing by weblink", but you failed to provide the link.

ff, I think you've been told this before -- you can't just throw out something like that - you have to give a summary or idea what it's about.

And if you're going to provide a cite, include the cite!

The Lawfare Podcast: WTF, Ukraine!

He's said before this is some kind of phone thing. I, on the other hand, am a touch typist, and will never be guilty of typing in all thumbs. (Because thumbs are only a quarter as efficient in hitting the wrong keys.)

The first two years of the Trump presidency were tied up with the Russia scandal. Now, there’s another scandal involving Russia’s next-door neighbor: Ukraine. The revelation that President Trump and his envoys pressured the Ukrainian government for information about debunked claims of Biden family corruption in Ukraine have brought Ukrainian domestic politics onto the American stage. The Ukrainian side of this very American scandal is complicated yet vital to understanding the whistleblower complaint and the reality of what happened with the Ukrainian prosecutor and Joe Biden’s son. Quinta Jurecic sat down with Alina Polyakova, the Director of the Project on Global Democracy and Emerging Technology at the Brookings Institution, to break it all down. They talked about recent Ukrainian political developments, what exactly Joe Biden did or didn’t do in Ukraine, and what this might mean for the U.S.-Ukraine relationship going forward.

It's from October 1, which is almost a lifetime ago in terms of the Ukraine scandal, but it's still a good backgrounder.

[Mountain Man]

"The revelation that President Trump and his envoys pressured the Ukrainian government..."

This is unequivocally false. The transcript shows there was no pressure. The former US Special Envoy to the Ukraine says that Joe Biden was never a topic of discussion. The Ukraine president and his foreign minister are both on record saying there was no pressure.

That Lawfare (LOL-fare?) continues to promote this false narrative reveals an abject lack of credibility.

[rogue06]

That's only because we haven't done enough investigations! We need to investigate to figure out what crimes he might have committed we oughta be investigating!



(Is that how the argument goes? I'll admit, I have trouble thinking down to the level of the average liberal.)

FIFY n/c

[JimL]

That's only because we haven't done enough investigations! We need to investigate to figure out what crimes he might have committed!



(Is that how the argument goes? I'll admit, I have trouble thinking down to the level of the average liberal.)

No, you see the way it works, MM, is that evidence emerges, you know, perhaps via a whistleblower, and then you investigate. That you trumpsters are incapable of seeing evidence is a problem that only you can solve for your blind selves.

[demi-conservative]

More desperation

"Lindsey is about to go down in a way that I think he’s going to regret his whole life."

Even more desperation. The mask is slipping off.