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Last edited by rogue06; 10-07-2019, 04:25 PM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAs an aside even several of the authors of The Fundamentals (from which "fundamentalism" got its name) were either open to or outright accepted evolution including James Orr, R. A. Torrey, E.Y. Mullins, Benjamin Warfield (who also played a pivotal role in the concept of inerrancy) and even George Frederick Wright who would waffle back and forth but even in his "anti" periods was focusing on materialistic evolution and seemingly still open to theistic evolution."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostArguably it was easier to hold to such a position before the advances in genetics of the past 50 years have dealt concordism serious blows, though Joshua Swamidass's latest attempt to reconcile a literal A&E with current theory has garnered serious attention even from nonreligious scholars. (But I apologize for derailing.)
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostNo one, not Smith, not Parker, not Heiser believe that later post-exile Jews read this passage as pertaining to distinct deities (outside of possibly the redactors who ignored it).
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostArguably it was easier to hold to such a position before the advances in genetics of the past 50 years have dealt concordism serious blows, though Joshua Swamidass's latest attempt to reconcile a literal A&E with current theory has garnered serious attention even from nonreligious scholars. (But I apologize for derailing.)
But you're right this is starting to become a derail.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostA possible solution for this problem might be found in realizing that there appears to be a profound difference between what science calls human and what the Bible refers to human ("Biblical man"). Something I brought up previously such as here.
But you're right this is starting to become a derail.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostArguably it was easier to hold to such a position before the advances in genetics of the past 50 years have dealt concordism serious blows, though Joshua Swamidass's latest attempt to reconcile a literal A&E with current theory has garnered serious attention even from nonreligious scholars. (But I apologize for derailing.)
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostIt's not a actual derail until someone mentions bacon.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostPlease feel free to expand on this. I'm not familiar with this alternative, or how it differs from Wellhausen.
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