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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Demi, Turkey is no friend of the US, and never was. Unlike the Kurds who were our friends and allies - you are on the wrong side here brother... Let me tell you, I have a number of friends who are big Trump supporters they are quite upset with what he did...
    Semper fi.

    This isn't about politics. This is about duty, honor, and country. People come and go from the oval, and sometimes the troops love 'em, and sometimes they hate 'em ... hell, I was in under Carter. 'Nuff said? Orders to stand down and watch allies get slaughtered dishonors us. I'm angry, too, but I can't imagine what it must feel like for these guys.

    Pullback Leaves Green Berets Feeling ‘Ashamed,’ and Kurdish Allies Describing ‘Betrayal’

    By Eric Schmitt, Thomas Gibbons-Neff, Ben Hubbard and Helene Cooper
    Published Oct. 13, 2019
    Updated Oct. 14, 2019, 7:44 a.m. ET

    WASHINGTON — American commandos were working alongside Kurdish forces at an outpost in eastern Syria last year when they were attacked by columns of Syrian government tanks and hundreds of troops, including Russian mercenaries. In the next hours, the Americans threw the Pentagon’s arsenal at them, including B-52 strategic bombers. The attack was stopped.

    That operation, in the middle of the American-led campaign against the Islamic State in Syria, showed the extent to which the United States military was willing to protect the Syrian Kurds, its main ally on the ground.

    But now, with the White House revoking protection for these Kurdish fighters, some of the Special Forces officers who battled alongside the Kurds say they feel deep remorse at orders to abandon their allies.

    [Follow our live updates: Assad’s army moves into a strategic border town.]

    “They trusted us and we broke that trust,” one Army officer who has worked alongside the Kurds in northern Syria said last week in a telephone interview. “It’s a stain on the American conscience.”

    “I’m ashamed,” said another officer who had also served in northern Syria. Both officers spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid reprisals from their chains of command.

    And the response from the Kurds themselves was just as stark. “The worst thing in military logic and comrades in the trench is betrayal,” said Shervan Darwish, an official allied with the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    U.S. forces say Turkey was deliberately ‘bracketing’ American troops with artillery fire in Syria

    By Dan Lamothe
    October 12 at 6:07 PM

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    Brett McGurk, a former special envoy for both the Obama and Trump administrations in the campaign against the Islamic State, raised concerns about the incident Friday, saying on Twitter that the United States had declared the position to Turkey.

    “This was not a mistake,” he said.
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    Scroll to: U.S. says Turkish strike near American post was a mistake.

    Turkish troops shelled within 550 yards of an American observation post in northern Syria late Friday while United States troops were in the area, according to a military situation report obtained by The New York Times.

    Since 2016, the United States has maintained several camps in northern Syria, including a post near the town of Kobani, as part of an international alliance fighting the Islamic State.

    The military report undermines both American and Turkish narratives about the shelling, which was first reported on Friday by Newsweek. In American news reports over the weekend, unidentified officials variously claimed that the Turkish shelling was probably deliberate, that it was intense and that it had hit areas on both sides of the American post. In an official statement, the Pentagon said only that Turkish forces had shelled within a few hundred meters of American troops.

    In response, Turkey’s Defense Ministry said that the strike was an accident and that its forces had fired on Kurdish troops around 1,000 yards from the American outpost. But the military situation report contests both the anonymous American briefings and the Turkish account.

    A map shows two Turkish artillery strikes two miles west of the American outpost and one strike landing roughly 300 to 500 yards southwest of the post, closer than the Turks acknowledged, but less intense than some United States officials have claimed.

    The military report said that the shelling near the American post was probably an accident, and added that further misfires by Turkish forces could not be ruled out.

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    Related, but not contemporary ... strikes were on May 5-6, 2019.


    VISUAL INVESTIGATIONS
    Russia Bombed Four Syrian Hospitals. We Have Proof.

    By EVAN HILL, CHRISTIAAN TRIEBERT, MALACHY BROWNE, DMITRIY KHAVIN, DREW JORDAN and WHITNEY HURST | Oct. 13, 2019 | 7:58

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    12 Hours. 4 Syrian Hospitals Bombed. One Culprit: Russia.

    How Times Reporters Proved Russia Bombed Syrian Hospitals

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Demi, Turkey is no friend of the US, and never was. Unlike the Kurds who were our friends and allies - you are on the wrong side here brother... Let me tell you, I have a number of friends who are big Trump supporters they are quite upset with what he did...
    You're problem is in mistaking Demi for a brother. Yeah, he's a Trump supporter, but from a different perspective than yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    You're problem is in mistaking Demi for a brother. Yeah, he's a Trump supporter, but from a different perspective than yours.
    Why wouldn't I consider him a brother in Christ...
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    You're problem is in mistaking Demi for a brother. Yeah, he's a Trump supporter, but from a different perspective than yours.
    Christians commonly refer to each other as brother and sister, irrespective of politics.
    I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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