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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Yeah, this just couldn't be the result of Trump's oft repeated pledge to pull U.S. troops out of the various Middle Eastern conflicts.
    I'm sure he's entirely sincere about that, or crazy sincere, or something like that.

    And I'm also sure the both the Majority Leader in the Senate and the Minority Leader in the House have already condemned the move, which makes me wonder whether you even realize how far you've fallen off the partisan fringe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    Not even the hyperpartisans on TWeb think this was a good idea.
    Okay, I guess I gotta take that back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Yeah, this just couldn't be the result of Trump's oft repeated pledge to pull U.S. troops out of the various Middle Eastern conflicts.
    Still self interest rogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    I'm sure he's entirely sincere about that, or crazy sincere, or something like that.

    And I'm also sure the both the Majority Leader in the Senate and the Minority Leader in the House have already condemned the move, which makes me wonder whether you even realize how far you've fallen off the partisan fringe.
    It's the required cost of alignment with Trump. No one can stay aligned with Trump without losing at least part of who they are to who he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    Okay, I guess I gotta take that back.
    Unfortunately.

    This today:

    Source: cnn

    Trump faced a barrage of criticism from within his own party, including McConnell, Sen. Lindsey Graham and former US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley about the decision.
    Trump said on Monday afternoon, "I have great respect for all the people that you named. They have their opinion and a lot of people do and I could also name many more than you just named of people that are totally supportive."
    McConnell on Monday urged Trump to reverse his move, saying "a precipitous withdrawal of US forces from Syria would only benefit Russia, Iran, and the Assad regime."

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    Same old same old. The mysterious 'many more' that are with him. And the usual set he likes to make happy, Russia, dictators and despots.

    What is different is that people that have typically supported him no matter what have broken with him. Finally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    I'm sure he's entirely sincere about that, or crazy sincere, or something like that.

    And I'm also sure the both the Majority Leader in the Senate and the Minority Leader in the House have already condemned the move, which makes me wonder whether you even realize how far you've fallen off the partisan fringe.
    Personally I think it is a bad idea so you failed miserably at your attempt at mind reading.

    I'm merely pointing out that pulling the military out of various Middle Eastern conflicts was a campaign promise of Trump's.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    Having the sig I do, I've sort of backed myself into a corner here, eh?
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Personally I think it is a bad idea so you failed miserably at your attempt at mind reading.

    I'm merely pointing out that pulling the military out of various Middle Eastern conflicts was a campaign promise of Trump's.
    Not reading your mind rogue, just your words. If you don't qualify your justification of his actions, then no one can know you have any other opinion. And to assume you have another opinion would, in fact, be attempted mind reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Not reading your mind rogue, just your words. If you don't qualify your justification of his actions, then no one can know you have any other opinion. And to assume you have another opinion would, in fact, be attempted mind reading.

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    So naturally y'all leap with both feet to the worst possible interpretation. Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    Having the sig I do, I've sort of backed myself into a corner here, eh?
    Not really. War against violent aggressors that want to destroy your civilization, like ISIS, is justified. And we don't just typically kill innocents on purpose, unlike those we are fighting. The issue here is that we've gotten a certain population to do most of our fighting for us on a promise of protection from extermination by the Turks. We are here seen abandoning our promise to them to benefit the personal goals of Donald Trump - which will destroy our capacity to recruit help on a promise in the future. Our word means nothing as a nation under a person like Trump.

    I wonder how many ever consider that many campaign promises are not kept because on gaining office and learning more about what it is they are dealing with they realize their promise was a fool's errand. How much better it is to have people leading our country that are willing to swallow their pride for the good of the country than a person willing to sacrifice the best interests of our country for personal gain.

    Jim
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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