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Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 10-14-2019, 06:54 AM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostYou're missing my point, again.
You think that you are not partisan, and that your views are all based in objective facts, etc etc. No bias.
You're wrong. No-one is completely above bias. I'm not, you're not.
I've seen you accept the media presentation of something Trump said, and roll with the narrative they set. Yet when I look at the facts, the media presentation of the issue is clearly skewed unfavourably against Trump. That convinces me that you're biased towards certain positions, and biased against others. Doesn't make those positions right or wrong, but does make you less reliable as a judge of truth in those matters.
When you refuse to accept that you are NOT an objective observer, you weaken your own credibility, and you insulate yourself against having your preconceptions challenged by new data. Which means that your beliefs are less likely to reflect external reality. I guess if you're happy with that, ."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostIt does, but there’s a difference between general and always. I can’t say I would blame those who had intense feelings of hate and anger of those who first laid eyes on a Nazi death camp and found the horrors within.
You seem to be working very hard to find some justification for hatred. There is none.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI wouldn't 'Blame" them either. It is one thing to acknowledge such emotions are natural. Quite another to say they are ok, acceptable, to be nourished and fed. To give in to hate is to become evil. To willingly participate in hatred is sin. To not work towards reconciliation and forgiveness is to spit upon the Cross of Christ, for he died for all, that all might be forgiven and set free from the bondage of hatred and sin.
You seem to be working very hard to find some justification for hatred. There is none.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI’m not ‘working hard’ at all. I think you’re being too black/white. An emotional reaction exist, it is what one decides to do with such a thing that determines if it is good or evil. It is just as easy to twist love to evil purposes as any other emotion.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThat is not your original argument or approach to the topic, but so be it.
“Why? Emotions are just things that exist that can produce both good things and bad things. It is just as easy to use love to perform evil deeds as any other emotion.”
Me today:
“An emotional reaction exist, it is what one decides to do with such a thing that determines if it is good or evil. It is just as easy to twist love to evil purposes as any other emotion.”
Looks pretty consistent to me. Maybe you should that whole ‘active reading’ thing."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostMe 2 days ago:
“Why? Emotions are just things that exist that can produce both good things and bad things. It is just as easy to use love to perform evil deeds as any other emotion.”
Me today:
“An emotional reaction exist, it is what one decides to do with such a thing that determines if it is good or evil. It is just as easy to twist love to evil purposes as any other emotion.”
Looks pretty consistent to me. Maybe you should that whole ‘active reading’ thing.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostYou can’t accurately judge a president until he’s been out of office for a few decades...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostPix, you were arguing for having hated, tryingvto justify it. You can't just decide you weren't. You had ample opportunities in my multiple posts to acknowledge harboring and acting on hatred is a bad thing and to say you only were talking about an immediate emotion that one would reject or seek help in finding a path to forgiveness.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostYou had ample opportunities in my multiple posts to acknowledge harboring and acting on hatred is a bad thing...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI would suggest even longer than that. I don't think anybody who has a living memory of a president will be able to accurately judge him. You need somebody with no emotional connection."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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We all fondly remember the forbearance shown here and by Conservatives everywhere when they steadfastly refused to pass judgement on the Obama presidency.
--Sam
Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI would suggest even longer than that. I don't think anybody who has a living memory of a president will be able to accurately judge him. You need somebody with no emotional connection."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostDid a democrat say it, than Sam will defend it, no matter what. You can bet your lucky stripes if this was 2014 and a Republican would have pulled this stunt, he’d call it a dishonest attack because a Republican said it, so it’s false. Shoot, he didn’t even know that Clinton’s e mail contained classified material!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sam View PostWe all fondly remember the forbearance shown here and by Conservatives everywhere when they steadfastly refused to pass judgement on the Obama presidency.
--Sam"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI have to admit, I thought Sam presented himself as less biased. I admit I was wrong.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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