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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    Dude, someone who has no problem criticizing Trump for his faults on this forum is not what a bubble makes.
    Dude, anyone who has seen the goings on in this administration from the very get go and has read the Mueller report, has seen the evidence of Trumps abuse of power in the Ukraine deal, and continues to defend him is in the bubble. It means you're not a critical thinker in your own right, you're simply parroting the consevative propagandists and your self interested republican leaders.


    Someone who incessantly parrots "orange man bad" 24/7
    As explained above, orange man is bad, so I'm not parroting anyone no matter how many times I point it out.

    and that Biden, Hillary, or any other politician from the democratic party can do no wrong
    Never said that, but if you are going to falsely accuse them of something without any substantial evidence to back up your accusations then I'll defend them with the facts, or with your lack of facts. There is no evidence of Biden doing anything wrong, Trump just wants to put that question in the mind of non critical thinkers like yourself so that he can continue to beat him with it in a possible presidential campaign against him.

    and to suggest otherwise is because they're susceptible to conservative propaganda conspiracies, fake journalist hacks, Russian propaganda or whatever is the very definition of not just someone in a bubble, but a pretty psychotic one at that.
    Fact is that you are accusing them simply because you've heard it through the conservative propaganda grapevine. There is no evidence of wrongdoing by Biden, even though they keep pouring that nonsense into the porches of your naive ears, and it is an abuse of power to extort a foreign country to investigate a U.S. citizen for any reason, least of all in the case of an ally in exchange for desperately needed military aid that protects not only their, but our own national security. Doing that was actually aiding and abetting Russia, our common adversary, in their aggression into Ukraine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Not, yet, and the Democrats seem to be rather confused as to whether or how to proceed.
    I donít think so. Trumpís on schedule to be impeached before Christmas. Itís going to be amazing to watch history being made. It will be a test of American governance like no other. Will the Senate live up to the founders hopes or not? Will Trump break the Constitution? It will either be a wonderful triumph or a disastrous end to the American Century.

    On reflection, while US elections are none of our business, it is quite rude of US voters to inflict Trump on the civilised world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Of course they're arguing process, because until there is a fair and impartial process in place, arguing the facts is pointless.
    As far as you balloon heads are concerned, no process will ever be fair, because deep down, you know as well as we do that Trump is clearly guilty of, well, of many things, which we can sum up as abuse of power, or abuse of office. Btw, Trump could participate in the Judicial hearings with his atty's and his own witnesses, but he turned the opportunity down. So they, and you, will complain/whine no matter what, and that is because they, and you, have a consciousness of guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Let's put it this way: it's futile to haggle over price per pound when dealing with a merchant who blatantly puts his thumb on the scale.
    Trump is free to participte in the hearings, with his atty's, with his witnesses, in order to prove his innocence, so no, there's no thumb on the scale, there is just someone who doesn't want to pay the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    I donít think so.


    Trumpís on schedule to be impeached before Christmas.
    That's the CURRENT (as of a few hours ago) plan.

    Itís going to be amazing to watch history being made.
    Yes, the Democrats, after promising there will be no partisan impeachment, are about to shoot themselves in both feet while both feet are in their mouths.

    It will be a test of American governance like no other. Will the Senate live up to the founders hopes or not.
    You'd have to believe that the founders' hopes would be that some dummy would come along and pervert the impeachment process into a political hackerbockle.

    Will Trump break the Constitution.
    According to the Democrats, he already done did.

    It will either be a wonderful triumph or a disastrous end to the American Century.
    Americans have their very own century?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLamebrain View Post
    ...in order to prove his innocence...
    This is the United States of America, Jimmy. Trump doesn't have to prove his innocence, it is presumed until he is formally convicted of a crime.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    About politics.
    CP, we all no why you are claiming it's all about politics, it's just your subtle way of once again defending Trump and parroting his "it's all just a hoax by the democrats."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    This is the United States of America, Jimmy. Trump doesn't have to prove his innocence, it is presumed until he is formally convicted of a crime.
    Nadler was playing that sheisty game saying that Trump's failure to appear pretty much proves he's guilty --- in an actual courtroom, the defense would object, and the judge would sustain, and explain to the jury how it really works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    The easiest way to deflect is to accuse the other side of the very shenanigans you're doing.
    Hey, you've finally recognized the republican party modis operandi, OBP. Good job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    CP, we all no why you are claiming it's all about politics...
    because it's politics.

    Unless, of course, it's aliens!
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