Take This Impeachment And Shove It...

[Teallaura]

About Trump "hiding" the "real" transcript, and telling his minions what to include in, and exclude from, the "public" version -- Does a "real" transcript even exist? I got the impression that there is really no such thing, not even a recording. My understanding was that many people listen to the original conversation simultaneously and take notes, then later compare those notes and create essentially a pseudo-transcript, and that is as close to the "real" conversation as we will ever get.

If there is a "real" transcript, then I agree, it should be released.

The transcript appears to have been done by a stenographer on the call which means it's a real transcript.

[rogue06]

The transcript appears to have been done by a stenographer on the call which means it's a real transcript.

There is a real need by the left to degregnate the transcript since it falsifies the "impressions" that the whistleblowers had

[Tassman]

There is a real need by the left to degregnate the transcript since it falsifies the "impressions" that the whistleblowers had

[firstfloor]

OA328 is Understanding the Impeachment Inquiry Resolution.

https://openargs.com/oa328-the-impea...ution-h-r-660/

[Mountain Man]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...defend-itself/

I'm not sure I entirely agree with his premise. If the truth defended itself then there would be no need for defense lawyers.

[firstfloor]

[JimL]

Most of them seem to be of the same bad character as Trump, they made a deal with the devil, so I think they will continue in their support of the corrupt liar and chief and end up going down with the fast leaking ship. They're desperate attempt to convince the public that it's naught but a witch hunt is an attempt to save themselves now, as much as it is to save their lying corrupt captain.

[Tassman]

Most of them seem to be of the same bad character as Trump, they made a deal with the devil, so I think they will continue in their support of the corrupt liar and chief and end up going down with the fast leaking ship. They're desperate attempt to convince the public that it's naught but a witch hunt is an attempt to save themselves now, as much as it is to save their lying corrupt captain.

[Charles]

Most of them seem to be of the same bad character as Trump, they made a deal with the devil, so I think they will continue in their support of the corrupt liar and chief and end up going down with the fast leaking ship. They're desperate attempt to convince the public that it's naught but a witch hunt is an attempt to save themselves now, as much as it is to save their lying corrupt captain.

This reminded me of Gerson's words:

https://twitter.com/mjgerson?lang=da

[JimL]

Yes, they are not moral leaders for sure, more like morally bankrupt, unprincipled, followers, who will only turn on their morally bankrupt leader and speak the truth if and when the constituents themselves see what they're hiding behind the curtain and revolt. Individual power is obviously more important to GOP reps. than leadership, governance, democracy or their country. They've all got their finger to the wind!

[JimL]

This reminded me of Gerson's words:

Indeed. And the goal posts are already moving. That there was "no quid pro quo" has now become, well there was a quid pro quo, but a quid pro quo is not illegal or impeachable. You've got to hand it to the corrupt, unprincipled republican party, they certainly have a lot of gall, they're shameless.

[Tassman]

Yes, they are not moral leaders for sure, more like morally bankrupt, unprincipled, followers, who will only turn on their morally bankrupt leader and speak the truth if and when the constituents themselves see what they're hiding behind the curtain and revolt. Individual power is obviously more important to GOP reps. than leadership, governance, democracy or their country. They've all got their finger to the wind!

[Mountain Man]

Shifty Adam Schiff just showed his cards. He posted on Twitter:

The president continues to target public servants, including those who have served their country in combat, with baseless attacks.

Efforts to intimidate or threaten witnesses will further build the case for obstruction, itself an impeachable offense.

https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/st...83779730878466

It would appear, then, that the endless investigations have one goal in mind: to goad Trump into "obstructing" the proceedings so they can then charge him with obstruction. Interesting.

Here's the in-depth analysis:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...further-build/

This is worth repeating:

Almost anything an innocent person does to defend themselves against false accusations can be made to look like obstruction.

[NorrinRadd]

Shifty Adam Schiff just showed his cards. He posted on Twitter:

The president continues to target public servants, including those who have served their country in combat, with baseless attacks.

Efforts to intimidate or threaten witnesses will further build the case for obstruction, itself an impeachable offense.

https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/st...83779730878466

It would appear, then, that the endless investigations have one goal in mind: to goad Trump into "obstructing" the proceedings so they can then charge him with obstruction. Interesting.

Here's the in-depth analysis:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...further-build/

This is worth repeating:

Almost anything an innocent person does to defend themselves against false accusations can be made to look like obstruction.

And specific to the current situation, almost anything a POTUS does to defend separation of powers and/or executive privilege can be made to look like obstruction or fascism.

[Teallaura]

And then there's entrapment...


And now one of the 'star' witnesses may have committed perjury.

There's a writer somewhere kicking himself because he never wrote the novel on this exact plot because it was too unbelievable.