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Take This Impeachment And Shove It...
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“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post...because it seems that the "orange man" IS bad. He's been a very naughty boy.
AND, since impeachment is a political process, can the House actually pass articles of impeachment to the Senate, and will the Senate remove "orange man".
(It's sounding like some Democrats in the House are starting to think that orange man's naughtiness has risen (or descended) to the level of censure, but not impeachment)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post(It's sounding like some Democrats in the House are starting to think that orange man's naughtiness has risen (or descended) to the level of censure, but not impeachment)
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou may have missed this earlier, Jim. I'll bold the pertinent part....
The term "misdemeanor", of course, indicates it's a criminal court, and happens to be the same word used in the US Constitution as one of the offenses for which impeachment can be commenced.
Do I Have to Appear in Court or Can My Attorney Appear for Me?
If you are a perpetrator of a misdemeanor, your attorney is allowed to appear in court for you. He/she may defend your rights without your presence on your behalf at all stages of your case. But, if your charge is brought for a felony you must take part in all stages including arraignment, plea, preliminary hearing, parts of a trial and sentencing at the court with your attorney.
So, as I said, even in a criminal case, the defendant may not be required to be present.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYou’re paranoid. This is not about “orange man bad”. Nor is it about “Biden, Hillary or any other politician from the democratic party” doing “no wrong”. It’s about the response to a whistle-blower report. Such a response is required by law. And the investigation of the whistle-blower's report has been largely corroborated by the subsequent investigation. To argue otherwise is mere denial, because it seems that the "orange man" IS bad. He's been a very naughty boy.
And Sondland even confirmed that Trump had explicitly and expressly told him that he did not want anything in exchange -- any quid pro quo. He testified that he had directly called Trump in order to find out why the aid was being delayed. "I asked the president, ‘What do you want from Ukraine?’" Sondland declared. "The president responded, ‘Nothing. There is no quid pro.’"
Sondland confirmed that Trump had told him that "I want nothing. I don’t want to give them anything, and I don’t want anything from them."
This is the nature and quality of the "evidence" that you are building this house of cards upon.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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I don't really trust Roberts. But as I understand it, even if he technically presides over the trial, the Senate itself will set the rules for the trial, so his wishy-washiness may be circumscribed.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
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Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Nutty Barr is having a melt-down over the IG report. He might be headed for impeachment too.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHey, you've finally recognized the democratic party modis operandi, OBP. Good job!Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostInteresting that they say "If you are a perpetrator of a misdemeanor" rather than "If you are charged with a misdemeanor." Either they assume everyone is guilty or only those guilty can have their attorney appear in court for them
I think they're criminal defense attorneys - maybe they only get criminal clients.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostI don't really trust Roberts. But as I understand it, even if he technically presides over the trial, the Senate itself will set the rules for the trial, so his wishy-washiness may be circumscribed.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think they're criminal defense attorneys - maybe they only get criminal clients.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI love the line from Breaking Bad that goes something like, "When you're trouble, you want a criminal lawyer... a *criminal* lawyer."
It's kinda like, "he can get you off", not "he can help you get the justice you deserve".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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