Take This Impeachment And Shove It...

[Tassman]

Dude, someone who has no problem criticizing Trump for his faults on this forum is not what a bubble makes. Someone who incessantly parrots "orange man bad" 24/7 and that Biden, Hillary, or any other politician from the democratic party can do no wrong and to suggest otherwise is because they're susceptible to conservative propaganda conspiracies, fake journalist hacks, Russian propaganda or whatever is the very definition of not just someone in a bubble, but a pretty psychotic one at that.

[Cow Poke]

...because it seems that the "orange man" IS bad. He's been a very naughty boy.

The question is, has his "badness" risen (or descended ) to the level of an impeachable offense.

AND, since impeachment is a political process, can the House actually pass articles of impeachment to the Senate, and will the Senate remove "orange man".

(It's sounding like some Democrats in the House are starting to think that orange man's naughtiness has risen (or descended) to the level of censure, but not impeachment)

[Cow Poke]

(It's sounding like some Democrats in the House are starting to think that orange man's naughtiness has risen (or descended) to the level of censure, but not impeachment)

Are House Democrats Getting Cold Feet Over Impeachment?

[rogue06]

You may have missed this earlier, Jim. I'll bold the pertinent part....
The term "misdemeanor", of course, indicates it's a criminal court, and happens to be the same word used in the US Constitution as one of the offenses for which impeachment can be commenced.

Do I Have to Appear in Court or Can My Attorney Appear for Me?

If you are a perpetrator of a misdemeanor, your attorney is allowed to appear in court for you. He/she may defend your rights without your presence on your behalf at all stages of your case. But, if your charge is brought for a felony you must take part in all stages including arraignment, plea, preliminary hearing, parts of a trial and sentencing at the court with your attorney.

So, as I said, even in a criminal case, the defendant may not be required to be present.

Interesting that they say "If you are a perpetrator of a misdemeanor" rather than "If you are charged with a misdemeanor." Either they assume everyone is guilty or only those guilty can have their attorney appear in court for them

[rogue06]

Laughing --- I saw that (malarkey) on the side of Biden's bus, and it inspired me to make up a word!

There's a Houston contractor who regularly uses that word...

That's the slogan for a national chain. We have them in Atlanta as well.

[rogue06]

Ciaramella's report (legally he is nothing but a leaker and is NOT a whistleblower) was yet another flop on par with the Mueller Report and Mueller's testifying. The hearings were packed with folks who had no direct knowledge but who had heard something from someone who overheard something with the one or two actual witnesses admitting that they had "presumed" and even "guessed"

Please Clickinate on Imagification

[rogue06]

Are House Democrats Getting Cold Feet Over Impeachment?

John Hinderaker has a piece at Powerline where he makes a pretty good case that the Democrats have little choice but to proceed but may wish they didn't when it gets to the Senate:

Source: ARE HOUSE DEMOCRATS GETTING COLD FEET?

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[NorrinRadd]

I don't really trust Roberts. But as I understand it, even if he technically presides over the trial, the Senate itself will set the rules for the trial, so his wishy-washiness may be circumscribed.

[firstfloor]

Nutty Barr is having a melt-down over the IG report. He might be headed for impeachment too.

[One Bad Pig]

Hey, you've finally recognized the democratic party modis operandi, OBP. Good job!

Fixed that for you, no charge.

[Cow Poke]

Interesting that they say "If you are a perpetrator of a misdemeanor" rather than "If you are charged with a misdemeanor." Either they assume everyone is guilty or only those guilty can have their attorney appear in court for them

I think they're criminal defense attorneys - maybe they only get criminal clients.

[Cow Poke]

Nutty Barr....

Does that have nougat?

[Mountain Man]

I don't really trust Roberts. But as I understand it, even if he technically presides over the trial, the Senate itself will set the rules for the trial, so his wishy-washiness may be circumscribed.

I think he can be trusted since he will be mainly making decisions about process rather than rendering a final verdict.

[Mountain Man]

I think they're criminal defense attorneys - maybe they only get criminal clients.

I love the line from Breaking Bad that goes something like, "When you're trouble, you want a criminal lawyer... a *criminal* lawyer."

[Cow Poke]

I love the line from Breaking Bad that goes something like, "When you're trouble, you want a criminal lawyer... a *criminal* lawyer."

Yeah, we have a 'criminal lawyer' in town who, pretty much anybody knows, if he's the attorney, the client is probably 100% guilty. HOWEVER, we have to presume his client is innocent until proven guilty in court.

It's kinda like, "he can get you off", not "he can help you get the justice you deserve".