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  • The Rick Gates sentencing was pretty interesting.
    I myself, could have been a judge, but I didn’t have the Latin. [unlike Trump]
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
    “not all there” - you know who you are

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    • The letter to Nancy Pelosi:



      THE WHITE HOUSE
      WASHINGTON

      December 17, 2019
      The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
      Speaker of the House of Representatives
      Washington, D.C. 20515

      Dear Madam Speaker:
      I write to express my strongest and most powerful protest against the partisan impeachment
      crusade being pursued by the Democrats in the House of Representatives. This impeachment
      represents an unprecedented and unconstitutional abuse of power by Democrat Lawmakers,
      unequaled in nearly two and a half centuries of American legislative history.
      The Articles of Impeachment introduced by the House Judiciary Committee are not recognizable
      under any standard of Constitutional theory, interpretation, or jurisprudence. They include no
      crimes, no misdemeanors, and no offenses whatsoever. You have cheapened the importance of
      the very ugly word, impeachment!

      By proceeding with your invalid impeachment, you are violating your oaths of office, you are
      breaking your allegiance to the Constitution, and you are declaring open war on American
      Democracy. You dare to invoke the Founding Fathers in pursuit of this election-nullification
      scheme-yet your spiteful actions display unfettered contempt for America's founding and your
      egregious conduct threatens to destroy that which our Founders pledged their very lives to build.
      Even worse than offending the Founding Fathers, you are offending Americans of faith by
      continually saying "I pray for the President," when you know this statement is not true, unless it
      is meant in a negative sense. It is a terrible thing you are doing, but you will have to live with it,
      not I!

      Your first claim, "Abuse of Power," is a completely disingenuous, meritless, and baseless
      invention of your imagination. You know that I had a totally innocent conversation with the
      President of Ukraine. I then had a second conversation that has been misquoted,
      mischaracterized, and fraudulently misrepresented. Fortunately, there was a transcript of the
      conversation taken, and you know from the transcript (which was immediately made available)
      that the paragraph in question was perfect. I said to President Zelensky: "I would like you to do
      us a favor, though, because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it."
      I said do us a favor, not me, and our country, not a campaign. I then mentioned the Attorney
      General of the United States. Every time I talk with a foreign leader, I put America's interests
      first, just as I did with President Zelensky.

      You are turning a policy disagreement between two branches of government into an impeachable
      offense-it is no more legitimate than the Executive Branch charging members of Congress with
      crimes for the lawful exercise of legislative power.
      You know full well that Vice President Biden used his office and $1 billion dollars of U.S. aid
      money to coerce Ukraine into firing the prosecutor who was digging into the company paying his
      son millions of dollars. You know this because Biden bragged about it on video. Biden openly
      stated: "I said, ' I'm telling you, you' re not getting the billion dollars' . .. I looked at them and
      said: 'I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money.'
      Well, son of a bitch. He got fired." Even Joe Biden admitted just days ago in an interview with
      NPR that it "looked bad." Now you are trying to impeach me by falsely accusing me of doing
      what Joe Biden has admitted he actually did.

      President Zelensky has repeatedly declared that I did nothing wrong, and that there was No
      Pressure. He further emphasized that it was a "good phone call," that "I don't feel pressure," and
      explicitly stressed that "nobody pushed me." The Ukrainian Foreign Minister stated very
      clearly: "I have never seen a direct link between investigations and security assistance." He also
      said there was "No Pressure." Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, a supporter of Ukraine who
      met privately with President Zelensky, has said: "At no time during this meeting ... was there any
      mention by Zelensky or any Ukrainian that they were feeling pressure to do anything in return
      for the military aid." Many meetings have been held between representatives of Ukraine and our
      country. Never once did Ukraine complain about pressure being applied-not once!
      Ambassador Sondland testified that I told him: "No quid pro quo. I want nothing. I want
      nothing. I want President Zelensky to do the right thing, do what he ran on."

      The second claim, so-called "Obstruction of Congress," is preposterous and dangerous. House
      Democrats are trying to impeach the duly elected President of the United States for asserting
      Constitutionally based privileges that have been asserted on a bipartisan basis by administrations
      of both political parties throughout our Nation's history. Under that standard, every American
      president would have been impeached many times over. As liberal law professor Jonathan
      Turley warned when addressing Congressional Democrats: "I can't emphasize this enough .. .if
      you impeach a president, if you make a high crime and misdemeanor out of going to the courts, it
      is an abuse of power. It's your abuse of power. You' re doing precisely what you're criticizing
      the President for doing."

      Everyone, you included, knows what is really happening. Your chosen candidate lost the
      election in 2016, in an Electoral College landslide (306-227), and you and your party have never
      recovered from this defeat. You have developed a full-fledged case of what many in the media
      call Trump Derangement Syndrome and sadly, you will never get over it! You are unwilling and
      unable to accept the verdict issued at the ballot box during the great Election of 2016. So you
      have spent three straight years attempting to overturn the will of the American people and nullify
      their votes. You view democracy as your enemy!

      Speaker Pelosi, you admitted just last week at a public forum that your party's impeachment
      effort has been going on for "two and a half years," long before you ever heard about a phone
      call with Ukraine. Nineteen minutes after I took the oath of office, the Washington Post

      published a story headlined, "The Campaign to Impeach President Trump Has Begun." Less
      than three months after my inauguration, Representative Maxine Waters stated, "I'm going to
      fight every day until he's impeached." House Democrats introduced the first impeachment
      resolution against me within months of my inauguration, for what will be regarded as one of our
      country's best decisions, the firing of James Corney (see Inspector General Reports)-who the
      world now knows is one of the dirtiest cops our Nation has ever seen. A ranting and raving
      Congresswoman, Rashida Tlaib, declared just hours after she was sworn into office, "We're
      gonna go in there and we're gonna impeach the *****" Representative Al Green said in
      May, "I'm concerned that if we don't impeach this president, he will get re-elected." Again, you
      and your allies said, and did, all of these things long before you ever heard of President Zelensky
      or anything related to Ukraine. As you know very well, this impeachment drive has nothing to
      do with Ukraine, or the totally appropriate conversation I had with its new president. It only has
      to do with your attempt to undo the election of 2016 and steal the election of 2020 !
      Congressman Adam Schiff cheated and lied all the way up to the present day, even going so far
      as to fraudulently make up, out of thin air, my conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine
      and read this fantasy language to Congress as though it were said by me. His shameless lies and
      deceptions, dating all the way back to the Russia Hoax, is one of the main reasons we are here
      today.

      You and your party are desperate to distract from America's extraordinary economy, incredible
      jobs boom, record stock market, soaring confidence, and flourishing citizens. Your party simply
      cannot compete with our record: 7 million new jobs; the lowest-ever unemployment for African
      Americans, Hispanic Americans, and Asian Americans; a rebuilt military; a completely reformed
      VA with Choice and Accountability for our great veterans; more than 170 new federal judges
      and two Supreme Court Justices; historic tax and regulation cuts; the elimination of the
      individual mandate; the first decline in prescription drug prices in half a century; the first new
      branch of the United States Military since 1947, the Space Force; strong protection of the Second
      Amendment; criminal justice reform; a defeated ISIS caliphate and the killing of the world's
      number one terrorist leader, al-Baghdadi; the replacement of the disastrous NAFTA trade deal
      with the wonderful USMCA (Mexico and Canada); a breakthrough Phase One trade deal with
      China; massive new trade deals with Japan and South Korea; withdrawal from the terrible Iran
      Nuclear Deal; cancellation of the unfair and costly Paris Climate Accord; becoming the world's
      top energy producer; recognition of lsrael's capital, opening the American Embassy in
      Jerusalem, and recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights; a colossal reduction in
      illegal border crossings, the ending of Catch-and-Release, and the building of the Southern
      Border Wall-and that is just the beginning, there is so much more. You cannot defend your
      extreme policies--open borders, mass migration, high crime, crippling taxes, socialized
      healthcare, destruction of American energy, late-term taxpayer-funded abortion, elimination of
      the Second Amendment, radical far-left theories of law and justice, and constant partisan
      obstruction of both common sense and common good.

      There is nothing I would rather do than stop referring to your party as the Do-Nothing
      Democrats. Unfortunately, I don't know that you will ever give me a chance to do so.

      After three years of unfair and unwarranted investigations, 45 million dollars spent, 18 angry
      Democrat prosecutors, the entire force of the FBI, headed by leadership now proven to be totally
      incompetent and corrupt, you have found NOTHING! Few people in high position could have
      endured or passed this test. You do not know, nor do you care, the great damage and hurt you
      have inflicted upon wonderful and loving members of my family. You conducted a fake
      investigation upon the democratically elected President of the United States, and you are doing it
      yet again.

      There are not many people who could have taken the punishment inflicted during this period of
      time, and yet done so much for the success of America and its citizens. But instead of putting
      our country first, you have decided to disgrace our country still further. You completely failed
      with the Mueller report because there was nothing to find, so you decided to take the next hoax
      that came along, the phone call with Ukraine----even though it was a perfect call. And by the
      way, when I speak to foreign countries, there are many people, with permission, listening to the
      call on both sides of the conversation.

      You are the ones interfering in America's elections. You are the ones subverting America's
      Democracy. You are the ones Obstructing Justice. You are the ones bringing pain and suffering
      to our Republic for your own selfish personal, political, and partisan gain.
      Before the Impeachment Hoax, it was the Russian Witch Hunt. Against all evidence, and
      regardless of the truth, you and your deputies claimed that my campaign colluded with the
      Russians- a grave, malicious, and slanderous lie, a falsehood like no other. You forced our
      Nation through turmoil and torment over a wholly fabricated story, illegally purchased from a
      foreign spy by Hillary Clinton and the DNC in order to assault our democracy. Yet, when the
      monstrous lie was debunked and this Democrat conspiracy dissolved into dust, you did not
      apologize. You did not recant. You did not ask to be forgiven. You showed no remorse, no
      capacity for self-reflection. Instead, you pursued your next libelous and vicious crusade- you
      engineered an attempt to frame and defame an innocent person. All of this was motivated by
      personal political calculation. Your Speakership and your party are held hostage by your most
      deranged and radical representatives of the far left. Each one of your members lives in fear of a
      socialist primary challenger- this is what is driving impeachment. Look at Congressman
      Nadler's challenger. Look at yourself and others. Do not take our country down with your
      party.

      If you truly cared about freedom and liberty for our Nation, then you would be devoting your
      vast investigative resources to exposing the full truth concerning the FBI's horrifying abuses of
      power before, during, and after the 2016 election-including the use of spies against my
      campaign, the submission of false evidence to a FISA court, and the concealment of exculpatory
      evidence in order to frame the innocent. The FBI has great and honorable people, but the
      leadership was inept and corrupt. I would think that you would personally be appalled by these
      revelations, because in your press conference the day you announced impeachment, you tied the
      impeachment effort directly to the completely discredited Russia Hoax, declaring twice that "all
      roads lead to Putin," when you know that is an abject lie. I have been far tougher on Russia than
      President Obama ever even thought to be.

      Any member of Congress who votes in support of impeachment-against every shred of truth,
      fact, evidence, and legal principle-is showing how deeply they revile the voters and how truly
      they detest America's Constitutional order. Our Founders feared the tribalization of partisan
      politics, and you are bringing their worst fears to life.

      Worse still, I have been deprived of basic Constitutional Due Process from the beginning of this
      impeachment scam right up until the present. I have been denied the most fundamental rights
      afforded by the Constitution, including the right to present evidence, to have my own counsel
      present, to confront accusers, and to call and cross-examine witnesses, like the so-called
      whistle blower who started this entire hoax with a false report of the phone call that bears no
      relationship to the actual phone call that was made. Once I presented the transcribed call, which
      surprised and shocked the fraudsters (they never thought that such evidence would be presented),
      the so-called whistleblower, and the second whistleblower, disappeared because they got caught,
      their report was a fraud, and they were no longer going to be made available to us. In other
      words, once the phone call was made public, your whole plot blew up, but that didn't stop you
      from continuing.

      More due process was afforded to those accused in the Salem Witch Trials.
      You and others on your committees have long said impeachment must be bipartisan- it is not.
      You said it was very divisive-it certainly is, even far more than you ever thought possible- and
      it will only get worse!

      This is nothing more than an illegal, partisan attempted coup that will, based on recent sentiment,
      badly fail at the voting booth. You are not just after me, as President, you are after the entire
      Republican Party. But because of this colossal injustice, our party is more united than it has ever
      been before. History will judge you harshly as you proceed with this impeachment charade.
      Your legacy will be that of turning the House of Representatives from a revered legislative body
      into a Star Chamber of partisan persecution.

      Perhaps most insulting of all is your false display of solemnity. You apparently have so little
      respect for the American People that you expect them to believe that you are approaching this
      impeachment somberly, reservedly, and reluctantly. No intelligent person believes what you are
      saying. Since the moment I won the election, the Democrat Party has been possessed by
      Impeachment Fever. There is no reticence. This is not a somber affair. You are making a
      mockery of impeachment and you are scarcely concealing your hatred of me, of the Republican
      Party, and tens of millions of patriotic Americans. The voters are wise, and they are seeing
      straight through this empty, hollow, and dangerous game you are playing.

      I have no doubt the American people will hold you and the Democrats fully responsible in the
      upcoming 2020 election. They will not soon forgive your perversion of justice and abuse of
      power.

      There is far too much that needs to be done to improve the lives of our citizens. It is time for you
      and the highly partisan Democrats in Congress to immediately cease this impeachment fantasy
      and get back to work for the American People. While I have no expectation that you will do so, I
      write this letter to you for the purpose of history and to put my thoughts on a permanent and
      indelible record.

      One hundred years from now, when people look back at this affair, I want them to understand it,
      and learn from it, so that it can never happen to another President again.

      Sincerely yours,

      Donald J. Trump
      President of the United States of America

      cc: United States Senate
      United States House of Representatives

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      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
        So, you're hoping to hear from those first hand witnesses that Trump blocked from testifying and will agree that the trial is no trial at all, that it's a cover-up, if the Senate Republicans refuse to call them? Of course you don't want to hear them, and you won't agree it's a cover-up, you've all made that clear already. What you want is confirmation of what you've been arguing for these past few years, So, like I said to Sparko, your excuses incriminate your lack of concern for the truth. If you find that language incindiary, well, it is, but absurd, it obviously is not.
        Pfft. Quit ascribing to me what you think I want, since your ability to read minds, as always, aspires to reach the level of abysmal. I'm hoping that the Senate spends no more than the absolute minimum needed to dispose of this farce of an impeachment. The Democrats have wasted far too much of the government's time and money nakedly attempting to undo the results of the last election. IF Trump were manifestly guilty of impeachable crimes, I want the bum kicked out - but your feckless political heroes couldn't even come up with a crime with which to charge him. Lest you forget, I far prefer Pence to Trump. If Pence becomes our president, GREAT! That position alone puts the lie to your fevered attempts to paint me and others as avoiding the truth.
        Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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        • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          Pfft. Quit ascribing to me what you think I want, since your ability to read minds, as always, aspires to reach the level of abysmal. I'm hoping that the Senate spends no more than the absolute minimum needed to dispose of this farce of an impeachment. The Democrats have wasted far too much of the government's time and money nakedly attempting to undo the results of the last election. IF Trump were manifestly guilty of impeachable crimes, I want the bum kicked out - but your feckless political heroes couldn't even come up with a crime with which to charge him. Lest you forget, I far prefer Pence to Trump. If Pence becomes our president, GREAT! That position alone puts the lie to your fevered attempts to paint me and others as avoiding the truth.
          Yeah, that.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            Pfft. Quit ascribing to me what you think I want, since your ability to read minds, as always, aspires to reach the level of abysmal. I'm hoping that the Senate spends no more than the absolute minimum needed to dispose of this farce of an impeachment. The Democrats have wasted far too much of the government's time and money nakedly attempting to undo the results of the last election. IF Trump were manifestly guilty of impeachable crimes, I want the bum kicked out - but your feckless political heroes couldn't even come up with a crime with which to charge him. Lest you forget, I far prefer Pence to Trump. If Pence becomes our president, GREAT! That position alone puts the lie to your fevered attempts to paint me and others as avoiding the truth.
            You say my ability to read minds is abysmal, and then you prove just the opposite.

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            • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              No. The inquiry was “done in the House” and 17 witnesses testified which has resulted in....
              ...the American public being convinced that the Democrats have really screwed up, Trump is raising money like crazy, the Senate will not convict, and Trump is on the way to reelection.

              GREAT JOB, Democrats --- just keep it up!
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Yeah, that.
                Yeah not that. Donald Trump is clearly insane and none of us here should encourage him by repeating his nonsense.
                “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                “not all there” - you know who you are

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                • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                  Yeah not that. Donald Trump is clearly insane and none of us here should encourage him by repeating his nonsense.
                  He can go back to the asylum when he has accomplished his tasks.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • The republican, who is very good friends with everyone, said that the allegations don’t even rise to the level of impeachable conduct. Is that crazy?

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                    • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      You say my ability to read minds is abysmal, and then you prove just the opposite.
                      Well, no. Try not sniffing glue before posting, k? It doesn't take mind-reading to guess my opinion on the impending impeachment, just a basic ability to comprehend English. The "why" bit is where mind-reading would come in handy, and "you missed it by a country mile" is wholly inadequate to describe just how badly you whiffed.
                      Last edited by One Bad Pig; 12-18-2019, 09:54 AM.
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                      • Originally posted by Watermelon View Post
                        The republican, who is very good friends with everyone, said that the allegations don’t even rise to the level of impeachable conduct. Is that crazy?
                        What Republican?
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          He can go back to the asylum when he has accomplished his tasks.
                          Yes, well, I can assure you that all this stuffing the courts activity is storing up a lot of trouble for the future. People will fight for freedom from tyranny, which is exactly what court stuffing is. Your schemings do not go unnoticed.
                          “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                          “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                          “not all there” - you know who you are

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                          • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                            Yes, well, I can assure you that all this stuffing the courts activity is storing up a lot of trouble for the future. People will fight for freedom from tyranny, which is exactly what court stuffing is. Your schemings do not go unnoticed.
                            Perhaps you and JimL can share a therapist?
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • Originally posted by dirtfloor View Post
                              Yes, well, I can assure you that all this stuffing the courts activity is storing up a lot of trouble for the future. People will fight for freedom from tyranny, which is exactly what court stuffing is. Your schemings do not go unnoticed.
                              Much of what you post sounds like "The moon landings were a hoax!" nuttery that I find it extraordinarily difficult to take anything you say seriously.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Perhaps you and JimL can share a therapist?
                                The difference I think, is that JimL is completely convinced of his views, while FF is trolling.

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