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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostI don't follow - how does that lead to infinite regression? Is this related to omniscience?Last edited by seer; 11-17-2019, 06:24 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Again Tass, no, adultery is still sin. But like all sin it can be forgiven.
Nonsense Tass, I gave you clear texts from both the Old and New Testaments. And not everything in Scripture has to do with God's moral law.
It is all relative in your world too, witness the changing moral attitudes re slavery over the millennia.
That is just stupid - if it is an essential part of our genetic make-up then why did the Nazi slaughter the Jews?
So you agree that a life for a life is just. Good...Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostJim's argument is that if an infinite regression of physical events is impossible so would God's thoughts if they too were an infinite regression. If not an infinite regression then the claim is that God thoughts would be static, impossible to act on.
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Originally posted by seer View PostYes it could be a cyclic series of big bangs and crunches or a infinite series of events within a multiverse that give rise to smaller bubble universes within the larger multiverse.
I'm not reading 20 pages of this and I don't expect you guys to rehash it for me.
I still owe Lurch a look at some stuff..."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by seer View PostJim's argument is that if an infinite regression of physical events is impossible so would God's thoughts if they too were an infinite regression. If not an infinite regression then the claim is that God thoughts would be static, impossible to act on.Originally posted by JimL View PostExactly. And again, you only have the two alternatives, either eternal or temporal."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostExactly. And again, you only have the two alternatives, either eternal or temporal.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostAgain Tass, no, adultery is still sin. But like all sin it can be forgiven.
Nonsense Tass, I gave you clear texts from both the Old and New Testaments. And not everything in Scripture has to do with God's moral law.
No Tass, in my world there are universal moral truths to be discovered. Whether we get them right all the time or ignore them for selfish reasons does not change their existence. Just as the laws of logic are universal whether we get them right or misunderstand them.That is just stupid - if it is an essential part of our genetic make-up then why did the Nazi slaughter the Jews?
So you agree that a life for a life is just. Good...
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWhat I said was that social values among Christians re divorce and remarriage have changed significantly over time. E.g. adulterer and divorcee Donald Trump was voted into power with the support of the Christian Right. Whereas a generation ago Edward VIII was forced to abdicate his throne by the Church of England over the issue of marrying a divorcee. See the shifting standards of scripturally based public moral values among Christians?
got the scripture right. They fought a civil-war over it.
Nope, I never said that slavery (or all forms of slavery) were in the category of a universal moral wrong. Men often sold themselves into slavery or indentured servant hood for benefit, like not starving. But man-stealing which constituted the basis for slavery in the US is.
As far as the Jews were concerned their lives were just as significant as those of the Nazis that slaughtered them.
Why would you think aAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostWell Jim there is no evidence that anything beyond this universe exists and this universe is finite.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIt leads to them to not being thoughts which are the result of a temporal process called thinking.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo, you're admitting that there is no evidence of a god. Wow, that's amazing, seer. I know how difficult it is, and how much courage it takes, for a believer to finally admit that to himself. Good man.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Charles View PostRomans 1Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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