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"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostMy point exactly. The bible will say whatever people want it to say depending on the cultural mores of the day
Of course, he is, he’s dead. You’re confusing “deter” with “prevented”. Statistics show that the death penalty is NOT a deterrent…as previously linked.
There have been many others. The Roman Empire once controlled the known world, and the British Empire held sway over a quarter of the world’s population until the 20th Century. The US has dominated since then but is now in decline, its place to be taken by China. So, what is your point again?
Not according to the ‘Happiness' and 'Human Development' Indices which clearly demonstrate that the secular nations head the list.
Again, I will leave that to the appropriate medical judgement. Suffice to say that the clear intention of Roe v Wade is that third trimester abortions are permitted only in the most extraordinary circumstances.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Charles View PostWe all know that. However, it does in no way demonstrate that the 30 % of the Southern Baptist who are pro choice do not go to church every sunday or are not Christians.
Why don't you spend some of your NannyRuption time actually doing some research?
Fast Facts About the SBC
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Now, if there are 14,813,234 Southern Baptists, and the weekly worship attendance is 5,297,788, that indicates that... I'll tell you what -- let's see if YOU can do that math!
It can be convenient to imagine they don't - but convenience is not always the truth.
FACT: Just because somebody is a Southern Baptist doesn't mean they attend Church, OR are even born again.
FACT: EVEN IF THEY ARE, two of the core fundamentals of SBC life are "the priesthood of the believer" and "the autonomy of the local church" - meaning they are allowed to believe what they want!
Sheesh, you can be so dense!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostFrom what weactually knowIGNORANTLY ASSUME about the Southern Baptists it is quite obvious that ...
(fixed it for ya)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostTalking about errors....
You know that 30 percent of the Southern Baptists are pro choice but somehow ignore it this statement.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostEmphasising:"Deter" does not mean "prevent", as your own definition indicates - you're focussing on part of the definition and pretending the rest doesn't exist.
You called Tassman a liar because he took you to be using the actual definition, not your subset of it.
You owe him a retraction and an apology.
The irritating part is that Seer is arguing a very weak point and y'all are losing it to him because of a dictionary. Hint: capital punishment is NEVER a cost effective preventative in a Christian, humane, civil or (not and*) a sane MODERN** society.
*None of these are mutually exclusive but they shouldn't be treated as mutually inclusive, either.
**Necessary adjective - emphasis so no one misses it."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostTechnically, Seer is correct in that the actual definition is " to turn aside, discourage, or prevent from acting ".
Putting somebody to death certainly "prevents them from acting" to kill again.
However, it's common knowledge that the "deter" is intended to mean "deter others", and that's where it's really hard to make a case.
Seer could have been A LOT clearer - but it was evident in context. Tass could have asked for clarification - but he was a bit busy being righteously indignant.
Moving right along..."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostHint: capital punishment is NEVER a cost effective preventative in a Christian, humane, civil or (not and*) a sane MODERN** society.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOr being in a garage makes you a car, or a cat giving birth to kittens in an oven makes them muffins....
Next time, keep the oven closed like I told you!"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by seer View PostPerhaps, but it is just..."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostI prefer to argue that regardless of its overall deterrence effect, it is 100% in preventing recidivism."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostNot if you're wrong, it's not.
Of course you could just as well put an innocent person in prison for life.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostOf course you could just as well put an innocent person in prison for life.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post...during which he can continue to appeal, new evidence may be found to justify a new trial, etc... And "life" isn't necessarily "life without any possibility of parole".Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo it doesn't Tass, yes some issues are ambiguous but not all or even most. Adultery, fornication, homosexuality, murder, stealing, rape, unbelief, etc... are sinful, and still sin according to Scripture even if all Christians decided they weren't to get along with the culture.
Nope, I quoted the definition deter - to prevent or discourage. The death penalty prevents the murderer or rapist from ever harming anyone again. It works 100% of the time.
The point is free markets create wealth and prosperity, socialism, if followed to it logical end, destroy wealth and prosperity. The reason why we are still the greatest nation in history is that we haven't embraced socialism to a great degree.
And no country in history had the ability to extend it power anywhere in the world as we do today.
You are confusing two issues. I linked a number of studies in the past, which I'm sure you remember. So the religious person in, let's say Norway, would be happier than the non-religious person in Norway. It is about individuals, not nations where any number of factors enter in.
Which means abortion for any reason at anytime.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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