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My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostComing from you, that’s a badge of honor. The one that attacks strawman of my positions, makes me try to defend positions I do not hold to, and refuses to admit to being wrong and prefers bearing a false witness, is not in the position to critique others. You’re the YEC onlist here Jim because to you, Trump is the antichrist and anyone that disagrees is labeled as ‘defying reality’ so you do not have to face your poorly thought out logic and contradictions. You have become the Jorge of civics, rather you see it or not, is your problem and much like Jorge, you could make good points if you were not stuck in the ‘only True ChristiansTM agree with me!’ mode. Quite sad, really.
I'll be glad to take you seriously when you get serious. Rants about how bad you think I am are going to get exactly as much attention as they deserve.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHe really is - Schiff looks like such a loony that it's easy for Trump's defenders to see this as simply a revenge for Hillary's losing the election.
What is so difficult to understand is why you, MM, and others can't see that many of his actions since before the 2016 campaign, and especially actions like what has taken place wrt Giulianni et al in the Ukraine (use of presidential power to effect the success of a potential campaign opponent) and wrt the Kurds (abandoning a military ally after they have lost thousands of life fighting on our behalf) are just that - threats to the national security of the United States initiated for personal gain.
These are real issues, and polls show the majority of americans see it that way. These are not the trivial issues so many try to paint them to be on these pages.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 10-21-2019, 12:05 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Postyou really failed ... sorry pix .
I'll be glad to take you seriously when you get serious. Rants about how bad you think I am are going to get exactly as much attention as they deserve."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostIn other words, you’ll charge full steam ahead, straight into a brick wall, rather than listen to anyone pointing out the quickly approaching wall. You’re not ‘bad’ at all and I even said you were smart and could make a pretty good case against Trump if you were not so wrapped up in your belief he’s the Antichrist. If anything, I feel as sorry for you as I do Jorge, two people that could actually make a decent point, if they only dropped their extremism.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 10-21-2019, 12:09 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI'll be glad to consider any INFORMATION you bring into your posts. Paragraph long lists of negative adjectives that apparently give you some kind of emotional catharsis are NOT information.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThat is where I believe you are wrong. This isn't about sour grapes revenge for Hillary losing the election.
This is about having a man in the office of the president that is genuinely perceived as a threat to the national security of the United States.
What is so difficult to understand is why you, MM, and others can't see that many of his actions since before the 2016 campaign, and especially actions like what has taken place wrt Giulianni et al in the Ukraine (use of presidential power to effect the success of a potential campaign opponent) and wrt the Kurds (abandoning a military ally after they have lost thousands of life fighting on our behalf) are just that - threats to the national security of the United States initiated for personal gain.
Jim -- if you truly want to know what I believe, ASK! Just like I wasn't sure what you were saying earlier, and I ASKED --- I did not assume. I am NOT defending Trump's actions, I have NEVER defended his character --- I'm simply amazed at the Chicken Little response to Trump, and the incredibly unprofessional manner in which the Democrats are handling this situation.
These are real issues, and polls show the majority of americans see it that way. These are not the trivial issues so many try to paint them to be on these pages.
Jim
Try harder, Jim.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWhat is so difficult to understand is why you, MM, and others can't see that many of his actions since before the 2016 campaign, and especially actions like what has taken place wrt Giulianni et al in the Ukraine (use of presidential power to effect the success of a potential campaign opponent) and wrt the Kurds (abandoning a military ally after they have lost thousands of life fighting on our behalf) are just that - threats to the national security of the United States initiated for personal gain.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd I believe you are wrong. I don't think that's ALL of it, but I certainly believe that's one of the elements.
And I think there's a degree of Chicken Little in that, Jim.
So, after pleading that we "start over" (however you worded it), here you are STILL lumping me in with others, ASSUMING you know what I think and believe.
Really?
CP - I can not anticipate when something I say will make you upset. Above you call my comment 'a little bit of chicken little.' And given what trump has done, I can't fathom that - at all. For you to say that means that AFAICT you are more in the MM camp of understanding as it relates to Trump than not. Which as far as I can tell makes my comment not far off. OTOH, I'm not slamming you when I say that, I'm saying I don't understand how you (or others) can say what you say about the issues regarding Trump.
Jim -- if you truly want to know what I believe, ASK! Just like I wasn't sure what you were saying earlier, and I ASKED --- I did not assume. I am NOT defending Trump's actions, I have NEVER defended his character --- I'm simply amazed at the Chicken Little response to Trump, and the incredibly unprofessional manner in which the Democrats are handling this situation.
Please show ANY post of mine where I have indicated to ANY DEGREE that Trump's antics are "trivial".
"That is a little bit Chicken Little" would be a start. Characterizing schiff's reactions to what trump has done as sour grapes over a Hillary loss would be another.
Try harder, Jim.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 10-21-2019, 02:00 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's not so difficult to understand once you realize that your paranoid delusions do not reflect reality.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostPot, meet kettle. Beyond your, “This is so terrible, why do you support such a person!!!” what do you bring to the table? Blanket accusations, partisan spin, your own belief that Trump is the Antichrist and supporting him, or not freaking out every time something happens makes you a horrible person, etc is what you bring to the table. In other words, nothing.
But I know you are capable if you put your mind to it, and I can be patient.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostAnother failure to present any substance. That's 3 in a row!
But I know you are capable if you put your mind to it, and I can be patient.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI give up.
First, I'm not attacking you. I'm trying very hard to work with you. And I assure you, you are not the only one that sees the other fellows responses as outside what is reasonable given what was said. And yet, compare the two. I'm not jumping down your throat. I'm trying to understand you.
It takes two CP.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostYou give up way too easily CP.
First, I'm not attacking you.
I'm trying very hard to work with you. And I assure you, you are not the only one that sees the other fellows responses as outside what is reasonable given what was said.
It takes two CP.
JimThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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