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My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostYou are seeing something that isn't there CP. But I'll keep trying.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSays the guy continually lumps me in with his enemies.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostMM - what you call paranoid delusions are the simple facts of the case.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNo, they're not, and the fact that you can't see that is a large part of your problem. What you call "the simple facts" are so loaded up with unfounded assumptions and idle speculation that you've effectively left fact behind and entered the land of fiction.
.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYes it is, and quite clearly. Two explicit examples are provided -- treason and bribery -- illustrating the nature and seriousness of the crime that would compel impeachment. Anything short of that does not warrant impeachment, per the Constitution.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostLike I said, as far as the President is concerned, "abuse of power" is a crime...
Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post...there is also much evidence of many criminal acts by Trump and his administration...
It's time to take off the tinfoil hat and put on your thinking cap, because the answers are pretty obvious.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post"Abuse of power" is a category of crimes and not a crime in and of itself....The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou beat me to it.... "Abuse of power" is an accusation, which must then be supported by fact. If it's actually a crime, that has to be proven, not simply alleged.
But that isn't an issue in the case of Mr. Trump. It's just a matter of determining if the abuse itself so egregious it warrants impeachment.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI don't think anyone is proposing that just accusing the president is sufficient.
There has to be actual abuse of power that can be shown objectively.
But that isn't an issue in the case of Mr. Trump. It's just a matter of determining if the abuse itself so egregious it warrants impeachment.
JimThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostUmmmm..... he is routinely called a criminal and worse on this very site.
Absolutely.
And, again, if the Democrat leadership hadn't been so spiteful and hate-filled since BEFORE Trump was even POTUS, it would be easier to see this as an "objective" prosecution.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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The fact that the Democrats won't even hold a vote to make their impeachment inquiry official (which they must do if they want their demand letters to carry any legal weight) suggests that even they aren't confident in their case against the President.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThat won't get him impeached, and most of the time the accusations are related to some criminal or apparently criminal action on his part.
Fortunately, the judge had a hard time believing the testimony of the 265 pound bad guy who attacked me with a cue stick was credible, in that I "threw him over the hood of my police car" just because I didn't like him.
(It was kinda funny - I weight about 148 lbs back then, and this was a BIG guy who had come running full force at me to beat me with the cue stick from the bar) The judge kept looking at the guy, then at me, sizing us both up, then asking the complainant...."so, what you're telling me is that Officer Cow Poke beat you up?" The guy couldn't even look at the judge, who then uttered the words "case dismissed".
That may well be true (though I'm not sure I agree with the specific adjectives you are using to describe their negative reaction to Trump).
JimThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe fact that the Democrats won't even hold a vote to make their impeachment inquiry official (which they must do if they want their demand letters to carry any legal weight) suggests that even they aren't confident in their case against the President.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI don't think it quite means what you are saying MM. The lack of confidence is due more to the fact the republicans have relinquished nearly all moral responsibility as it relates to their role in the separations of powers WRT this president. Which means the house must have a case that is more than merely technically correct. It must be sufficiently strong that a significant number of republicans in the senate will have no choice but to recognize it's legitimacy. And in this day with Trump at the helm and the republicans mostly just his minions, that is a tall order.
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But that's not happening, and it will never happen. Do you know why? It's very simple: they don't have a case against the President. That's why they're operating behind closed doors and depending on carefully constructed "leaks" to their media allies to sell their false narrative. It's the Russian Collusion Delusion all over again, where the ironclad evidence is always just around the corner but never actually delivered.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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