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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    Does this investigation include the 30000 emails Bleachbitted? If not, than it has zero meaning.
    I believe that's the first time I have ever seen the word "Bleachbitted".
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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    Does this investigation include the 30000 emails Bleachbitted? If not, than it has zero meaning.
    If the investigation focuses on the emails that Clinton handed over willingly but not the ones that were withheld (30000 Bleachbitted), it's obviously incomplete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    It would be almost unheard of to be prosecuted for clearly accidental mishandling of classified data. Typical responses are disciplinary action up to and including loss of the clearance and/or loss of employment. But generally there has to be clear criminal intent for there to be criminal consequences.

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    What about when Hillary instructed aides on how to remove "Classified" headers off of documents before sending them so they wouldn't be noticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    It's even worse than "sorry I didn't deliberately run the red light" --- persons who handle classified information take an oath to protect that information - a positive declaration - from even accidental or 'negligent' handling.
    Which is why I said, "Never mind the fact that Hillary's pleas of ignorance are literally unbelievable."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    MSNBC analyst: People have gone to jail over what Clinton did with email

    An MSNBC legal analyst noted Friday afternoon that the Obama administration has prosecuted people for mishandling of classified information similarly to how former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton may have, as news broke that the State Department found 22 emails containing top-secret information on Clinton's private server.

    "People do go to jail for mishandling classified information," Ari Melber said. "They have been prosecuted in the Obama administration for that."
    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    See my previous post, please.

    That would be this article:

    MSNBC analyst: People have gone to jail over what Clinton did with email
    by Becket Adams
    January 29, 2016 08:07 PM

    An MSNBC legal analyst noted Friday afternoon that the Obama administration has prosecuted people for mishandling of classified information similarly to how former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton may have, as news broke that the State Department found 22 emails containing top-secret information on Clinton's private server.

    "People do go to jail for mishandling classified information," Ari Melber said. "They have been prosecuted in the Obama administration for that."

    The Washington Examiner didn't do any reporting here. They're leaching from another media source, MSNBC, and not even directly. From the hat tip, it's taken from another leach, the Washington Free Beacon:

    MSNBC on Clinton: Obama Admin Has Sent People to Jail for Mishandling Classified Information

    From there, Mr. Adams revised the headline to amp up the fringe bait, copied the Youtube link from the WFB, paraphrased, googled up a tweet from Hillary's PR puke and linked it, then hit post.

    Notice immediately that the headline has been modified, and indeed that the revision, "what Clinton did with email," isn't supported in the text of the Examiner article, in the WFB article attached to the headline, or indeed, in the MSNBC interview, in which the legal analyst follows up immediately with a statement that "no one has any evidence that Hillary was the originator of any of the material that gets that legal level," and that Hillary's people claimed at the time — now backed up by the o/p — that she was never more than the recipient, or something close to that.

    So what comes from backtracking the article is a talking head saying mishandling classified information has been prosecuted, which is true, not that Hillary's mishandling has been prosecuted when done by others, which, according to Comey's presser, was not the case.


    This is not journalism. It's not even work. There's no effort here. Mr. Adams isn't trying to inform. He's watching his google alerts, leaching another leach, second-hand twisting mainstream truth into a fringe lie, creating propaganda by definition, and low quality at that.

    As fringe propaganda, even MM's stuff is better than this.


    This isn't acceptable, preacher. Lots of folks doing this I'd pass right on by, but you know better. I've seen you look cross-eyed at sources, even more mainstream conservative voices, like the WSJ, for instance, if only from years back. Can't remember seeing you do so recently, though. Posting this stuff as if you were taking it seriously — and who knows, maybe you are, but I won't believe it without a full confession — makes me think you're just trolling.

    To which I say, there's enough and more than enough partisan hacks cluttering the web with half-truths. They don't need the help of Baptist preachers.


    Or in another, better sense, maybe they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    ...a three year investigation by the State Department into Clinton's use of a private email server found "no evidence of deliberate mishandling of classified information." As usual, the story, which was front and center for most of 2015-2016, merits minimal coverage.
    Why wouldn't it get minimal coverage? No one cares about Hilary anymore because she doesn't have any relevance. If not for that recent claim she made about Russians planting third party candidates, it would've been months since I heard anything about her.

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    Cow Poke would it be fair to characterize your opinion as being "The judge is wrong here"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    "Deliberate mishandling" was never part of the law. "Sorry, officer, but I didn't deliberately run that red light!" Doesn't matter, you still broke the law.

    (Never mind the fact that Hillary's pleas of ignorance are literally unbelievable.)
    Pretty much what I predicted...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    MSNBC analyst: People have gone to jail over what Clinton did with email

    An MSNBC legal analyst noted Friday afternoon that the Obama administration has prosecuted people for mishandling of classified information similarly to how former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton may have, as news broke that the State Department found 22 emails containing top-secret information on Clinton's private server.

    "People do go to jail for mishandling classified information," Ari Melber said. "They have been prosecuted in the Obama administration for that."
    There is a difference between "people go to jail for mishandling classified information" and "people go to jail for doing what Clinton did." Under the Trump administration, both the State Department AND DOJ (and within the DOJ the FBI) have said the equivalent of "nothing here worthy of prosecution." Yet the calls for "lock her up" and the need for so many on the right to continue to hold to the "Clinton should be jailed for what she did" continues (as predicted) unabated.

    As I noted earlier - so much for "rule of law." Personally, I see no reason to question to conclusions of those in a position to investigate and come to conclusions. I trust our legal system (and intelligence agencies) to ferret out the truth and come to a legally sound decision.
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    This isn't acceptable, preacher. Lots of folks doing this I'd pass right on by, but you know better. ...
    This kind of condescending crap gets old... I saw something posted by MSNBC and was happy it wasn't Breitbart or Fox News.
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