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Every one of these lists I've seen includes such things as exaggerations, hyperbole, figures of speech, metaphors, imprecise citation, rounding, obvious jokes, honest mistakes, differences of opinion etc. so as to to inflate the number of the supposed falsehoods.
And FWIU the largest percent of "lies" told by Trump according to a list concocted by the Washington Post concern his claim that he didn't collude with the Russians. Now that we know that was indeed the truth the WaPo is still refusing to remove them from his list of lies.
But then again, what do you expect from someone who... well,
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe Washington Post has just provided an excellent example of just what sort of things get included into these various lists of "lies" that Trump tells that gets the left's knickers all in a bunch.
Yesterday Trump hosted the Clemson University's football team at the White House after they defeated Alabama at the College Football Playoff National Championship. Due to the partial government shutdown the White House kitchen staff has been furloughed so Trump went out and bought $3000 worth of fast food for them. What upset those afflicted with TDS at the Washington Post was Trump's statement that they had hamburgers stacked "a mile high." So they actually had what is painfully obviously a figure of speech fact checked to see if the hamburgers would literally be a mile high
Yup. You read that right. They actually fact checked it.
Their solemn conclusion? "At two inches each, a thousand burgers would not reach one mile high."
So this will now join the list of LIES! told by Trump
Similarly, during the last SOTU he said that a third ("one in three") of the women and girls illegally crossing the border end up getting sexually assaulted. Now according to Amnesty International the number is closer to 60% and one study even puts the number as high as 80%, but Politico and the Washington Post cited statistics indicating that the number is 31% so that they could proclaim that the statement is false. Talk about your nitpicking. It is almost a given that every past president and every politician has used "one-third" or "one-half" rather than a specific fraction or percentage, and walked away without being fact-checked but with Trump rounding off like that gets called another lie.
Trump constantly screws up and exaggerates. For him, like your typical New Yorker from Queens or the Bronx, everything is the biggest, the best, the greatest etc. (a characteristic also often associated with Texans) and he gets hammered for it as well.
I used to run across similar lists disseminated by fringe crackpots sent via fax or email, or heard on late night AM radio about past presidents. Now, however, it isn't the nutjob conspiracy theorists pushing this stuff but supposedly credible journalists, news outlets and high level politicians.
And who can forget how CNN fact checked a joke by then press secretary Sean Spicer about Russian dressing? CNN would later say that it was a joke after being ridiculed for it but even if[1] true it really does exemplify the climate.
1. Given that this is the same network that once actually had Wolf Blitzer investigating a SNL skit for criticizing the Obamamessiah, it is hard to overestimate their partisanship
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostEvery one of these lists I've seen includes such things as exaggerations, hyperbole, figures of speech, metaphors, imprecise citation, rounding, obvious jokes, honest mistakes, differences of opinion etc. so as to to inflate the number of the supposed falsehoods...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou know it!
Give him a scratch in that place that makes his back leg kick -- or behind the ear (your choice) -- for me.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
Give him a scratch in that place that makes his back leg kick -- or behind the ear (your choice) -- for me.
Jake when he was Lee.jpg
He looks like a little convict, and just needs his "number board".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI found a pic of him when we got him from the shelter -- he looks SO sad and "whipped". And SKINNY!
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He looks like a little convict, and just needs his "number board".
Yes I know that Jake is not a she.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by seer View PostWhy are all the libs upset because Trump said he was being lynched?
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostEvery one of these lists I've seen includes such things as exaggerations, hyperbole, figures of speech, metaphors, imprecise citation, rounding, obvious jokes, honest mistakes, differences of opinion etc. so as to to inflate the number of the supposed falsehoods.
And FWIU the largest percent of "lies" told by Trump according to a list concocted by the Washington Post concern his claim that he didn't collude with the Russians. Now that we know that was indeed the truth the WaPo is still refusing to remove them from his list of lies.
But then again, what do you expect from someone who... well,
Similarly, during the last SOTU he said that a third ("one in three") of the women and girls illegally crossing the border end up getting sexually assaulted. Now according to Amnesty International the number is closer to 60% and one study even puts the number as high as 80%, but Politico and the Washington Post cited statistics indicating that the number is 31% so that they could proclaim that the statement is false. Talk about your nitpicking. It is almost a given that every past president and every politician has used "one-third" or "one-half" rather than a specific fraction or percentage, and walked away without being fact-checked but with Trump rounding off like that gets called another lie.
Trump constantly screws up and exaggerates. For him, like your typical New Yorker from Queens or the Bronx, everything is the biggest, the best, the greatest etc. (a characteristic also often associated with Texans) and he gets hammered for it as well.
I used to run across similar lists disseminated by fringe crackpots sent via fax or email, or heard on late night AM radio about past presidents. Now, however, it isn't the nutjob conspiracy theorists pushing this stuff but supposedly credible journalists, news outlets and high level politicians.
And who can forget how CNN fact checked a joke by then press secretary Sean Spicer about Russian dressing? CNN would later say that it was a joke after being ridiculed for it but even if[1] true it really does exemplify the climate.
1. Given that this is the same network that once actually had Wolf Blitzer investigating a SNL skit for criticizing the Obamamessiah, it is hard to overestimate their partisanship"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by JimL View PostTrump isn't being lynched, he's being impeached, in other words he gets a trial, but he is, metaphorically speaking, running scared, and he likes to incite you, his staunch supporters."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostThose hung in Salem had a trial too.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, they were, but this isn't a witch hunt based on religious hysteria, and the court is not a makeshift Oyer et Termener court established for the sole purpose of trying and convicting witches. In any case, Trump isn't being hung, so he isn't being lynched, he's being impeached according to the Constitution as it was set down by the Founders who forsaw the danger of such a one as Trump coming along."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostVs the current ‘get Trump, at any cost’ environment we have now. Yes, that’s so much better.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat's just your biased perspective, Lilpix. The truth is that you, like most republicans, want there to be no trial no matter the possible cost to the Country. The President abused, is abusing, his power, the president put at risk the national security and the security of an ally for his personal gain, the President encouraged foreign adversaries to interfere in U.S. elections, the president has and continues to obstruct justice, the president is corrupt, enriching himself (emoluments) through the power of his office. And those are just the things he can be impeached for by Congress, outside of that, the list that makes him unfit for the office is too long to outline"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI see assertions and opinion, but no actual facts. Come back when you have those.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, I understand, you're blind to actual facts. That's what happens when you buy into the cult, Lilpix. Trump told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. But ya know, you're a party to the crime against you, so you can overcome it. Open those eyes and ears, Lilpix. And you too RumTum!"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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