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    • #32
      You can't think of a single piece of legislation that would be good for the country and acceptable to both parties?
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        EGGzackly, then campaign on "the other side of the isle can't even agree to support [insert friendly but inaccurately named legislation here]".
        Sounds like an episode of Gillgan's Island where half the castaways move to the opposite side of the island to form their own community.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          Sounds like an episode of Gillgan's Island where half the castaways move to the opposite side of the island to form their own community.
          I think that's pretty much where we are, and I'm not sure that the Democrats could come up with ANYTHING that would pass. I suspect it'd be the same way if the roles were reversed.

          We need Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan... like Lindsey says - "we need more drinkin' in the White House!"
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            I think that's pretty much where we are, and I'm not sure that the Democrats could come up with ANYTHING that would pass. I suspect it'd be the same way if the roles were reversed.

            We need Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan... like Lindsey says - "we need more drinkin' in the White House!"
            Well, yes, but I was poking fun at your using "isle" -- short for "island" -- when you meant "aisle".
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #36
              They've accomplished next to nothing other than the raising the budget (which both Reps and Dems seem now to be perfectly aligned), which isn't at all a bad thing considering their party's tyrannical stance on the first and second amendments.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                Well, yes, but I was poking fun at your using "isle" -- short for "island" -- when you meant "aisle".
                drifted right past me, thanks for throwing me a lifeline, cause I missed the boat on that one.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  I asked what they have accomplished, not a list of stuff they've done, Jim. And I have indicated that, in the current climate, to actually get something accomplished, you have to reach across the isle and get bipartisan support.



                  And, again, I ask, what have they actually accomplished?



                  Can you name ONE SINGLE piece of legislation they have advanced in a meaningful way, knowing the political climate, that is not so partisan that it won't be considered?



                  You have been told repeatedly that I'm an Independent, Jim. This constant refusal to acknowledge that is just childish. Once again, I'm treating you with respect, you indicated you could do likewise, but you just can't seen to find it in you.
                  If you're an Independent, and the Republicans hold both the Senate and the Presidency, then why are you asking "what have the Democrats accomplished?" Personally I don't think anyone really needs an answer to that, CP, the question itself makes it rather evident. You're an Ino!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    If you're an Independent
                    Do you think I'm a liar?

                    , and the Republicans hold both the Senate and the Presidency, then why are you asking "what have the Democrats accomplished?"
                    I have stated numerous times here that it would actually take an effort to offer a bipartisan bill. I have also acknowledged it would be the same if the roles were reversed.

                    Personally I don't think anyone really needs an answer to that, CP, the question itself makes it rather evident.
                    Jim, if you can't contribute anything worthwhile, do not post here anymore, OK?

                    You're an Ino!
                    It's amazing that you can't seem to understand that an Independent can still be an Independent, but line up more closely with one party than the other.

                    Seriously - stop posting in this thread.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      EGGzackly -- is there NOTHING they can propose that would actually receive bipartisan support?
                      Yes, there's a a piece of legislation to stop robocalls that has passed the House and Senate in various forms. So I think the step it's up to is that the two versions need to be reconciled and then passed and then signed.

                      However, in general, the Republicans appear to be deliberately taking the stance of not working with the Dems on anything. Dunno why they made an exception for the Robocalls. I dunno what you expect the Dems to do about Republican obstructionism...
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        an Independent can still be an Independent, but line up more closely with one party than the other.
                        If you tend to nearly always support Republican positions and oppose Democratic ones, and nearly always vote for Republicans over Democrats, then I have to wonder why you would be so insistent on trying to identify as an Independent and not a Republican?

                        Also, if you admit that you line up more closely with one party, then I think it's reasonable for Jim to want to classify you among the wider supporter base of that party. It kinda seems like you're splitting hairs and being disingenuous when you try to emphasize how you support them but aren't aligned with them.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          EGGzackly, then campaign on "the other side of the isle can't even agree to support [insert friendly but inaccurately named legislation here]".
                          And during the increasingly rare moments where a bill could get bipartisan support it seems that someone will inevitably add an amendment that will be totally unacceptable to the other side. Often this is is done purposefully, a deliberate effort to sabotage the legislation, just so they can have a talking point for the election (my opponent wouldn't support the Pat a Puppy on the Head bill!).

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            If you tend to nearly always support Republican positions and oppose Democratic ones, and nearly always vote for Republicans over Democrats, then I have to wonder why you would be so insistent on trying to identify as an Independent and not a Republican?

                            Also, if you admit that you line up more closely with one party, then I think it's reasonable for Jim to want to classify you among the wider supporter base of that party. It kinda seems like you're splitting hairs and being disingenuous when you try to emphasize how you support them but aren't aligned with them.
                            So I guess by that logic it is entirely reasonable to address y'all as communists.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              drifted right past me, thanks for throwing me a lifeline, cause I missed the boat on that one.
                              I figured that it was deliberate. Something offered up for me to razz you on -- so I ignored the low hanging fruit.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                So I guess by that logic it is entirely reasonable to address y'all as communists.
                                If we regularly voted for Communist Party candidates (we don't) and regularly posted about the policies and actions of the Communist Party and our support for them (we don't), then sure, by my logic if all of that were true then it would make sense to call us communist. Otherwise, no, it would just be you being inaccurate and misleading people.

                                By my logic, the correct terms for people here who vote for the Democratic party and regularly post about how they support the policies and positions of the Democratic party, would be... Democrats.
                                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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