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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Truth and facts are horrible things in your world. Especially if they contradict your carefully crafted fact-free narrative.
    Actually, it is the opposite that is true Rogue. Truth and facts - as they relate to Trump - are the horrible things in your world.

    Notice how as I turned your accusation around I did not demean you in the whole, but only in the part for which it applies. Perhaps you could look in that mirror and get a better picture of who you are becoming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    It is not obstruction in any way, shape, or form because the White House is under no legal, moral, or ethical obligation to respond to Shifty Schiff's demand letters.
    To attempt to prevent those with knowledge about an illegal act from testifying is obstruction.

    The fact they are attempting to prevent them from testifying is that they are guilty as charged. Would that some of these - e.g. Bolton - would grow a spine and a conscience and come forward and tell Congress what they know.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    That would not be the opinion of those issuing the subpoenas...
    Of course it's not, because they have a narrative to sell which you are uncritically buying, but judicial precedent says that House committees can only issue subpoenas if they have the approval of the chamber, which means a House vote. That's how easily Democrats could settle the issue: make the impeachment inquiry official with a House vote. They have the majority, so it would easily pass even if a few Democrats voted against, but they won't do it. Why not? I'm sure you could figure it out if you put a little thought into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    It's amazing how not one of you has the capacity to read and understand my reply. But perhaps that isn't your goal. You just like to take the opportunity to bash on people regardless of whether or not there is an actual reason to do so?
    How does impugning everyone else's intelligence and accusing the other side of bashing on people for no reason advance conversation, Jim? And how does that comport with Christian charity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    To attempt to prevent those with knowledge about an illegal act from testifying is obstruction.

    The fact they are attempting to prevent them from testifying is that they are guilty as charged. Would that some of these - e.g. Bolton - would grow a spine and a conscience and come forward and tell Congress what they know.
    Alternatively, an innocent man is under no obligation to compel his colleagues to be interrogated by a hostile committee. Remember, when the subpoenas were challenged in court, Schiff immediately rescinded them instead of waiting to see if they would pass the judicial test. Why would he do that if he was confident that they were legally valid?

    Again, if the House wants to compel them to testify then all they have to do is grant subpoena authority to the Judicial Committee with a House vote. The ball is in their court, and they're just letting it sit there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    How does impugning everyone else's intelligence and accusing the other side of bashing on people for no reason advance conversation, Jim? And how does that comport with Christian charity?
    It doesn't. (And for clarity 'everyone' here logically can only mean 'everyone replying to my post').

    Unfortunately, neither does distorting the words of a person trying to have an honest discussion (comport with Christian Charity). I wonder why that doesn't concern you?

    Pix was railing on me in a most uncharitable fashion as if I was the singular person with the opinions I hold. This doesn't bother you.

    I responded that I am not the only one holding such opinions, vis a vis 50% want trump impeached

    MM responded claiming I was using the polls to justify the content of my opinion - which is false, a lie. This doesn't bother you either.

    I corrected him.

    CP affirmed MM's post with additional demeaning comments. This doesn't bother you.

    But my defense, my calling out the 'misunderstanding' of CP and MM and their unwillingness to acknowledge their mistake - because it was equally uncharitable as a long string of comments my direction from the three above - this bothers you?
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    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    It doesn't. (And for clarity 'everyone' here logically can only mean 'everyone replying to my post').

    Unfortunately, neither does distorting the words of a person trying to have an honest discussion (comport with Christian Charity). I wonder why that doesn't concern you?

    Pix was railing on me in a most uncharitable fashion as if I was the singular person with the opinions I hold. This doesn't bother you.

    I responded that I am not the only one holding such opinions, vis a vis 50% want trump impeached

    MM responded claiming I was using the polls to justify the content of my opinion - which is false, a lie. This doesn't bother you either.

    I corrected him.

    CP affirmed MM's post with additional demeaning comments. This doesn't bother you.

    But my defense, my calling out the 'misunderstanding' of CP and MM and their unwillingness to acknowledge their mistake - because it was equally uncharitable as a long string of comments my direction from the three above - this bothers you?
    It bothers me that you made a blanket statement about everyone - your attempt to clarify notwithstanding, because your "logic" does not withstand scrutiny. I've been following this thread, and I certainly did not come away with the impression that your statement was restricted in any way; am I illogical for thinking so?

    Further, I didn't ask for your opinion regarding the actions of certain others. I asked regarding YOUR actions, Jim. Does what they do excuse what you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    It doesn't. (And for clarity 'everyone' here logically can only mean 'everyone replying to my post').

    Unfortunately, neither does distorting the words of a person trying to have an honest discussion (comport with Christian Charity). I wonder why that doesn't concern you?

    Pix was railing on me in a most uncharitable fashion as if I was the singular person with the opinions I hold. This doesn't bother you.

    I responded that I am not the only one holding such opinions, vis a vis 50% want trump impeached

    MM responded claiming I was using the polls to justify the content of my opinion - which is false, a lie. This doesn't bother you either.

    I corrected him.

    CP affirmed MM's post with additional demeaning comments. This doesn't bother you.

    But my defense, my calling out the 'misunderstanding' of CP and MM and their unwillingness to acknowledge their mistake - because it was equally uncharitable as a long string of comments my direction from the three above - this bothers you?
    Lie to yourself all you want, but not to me. You’re not here for honest discussion, you’re here to brow beat and feel superior to anyone that doesn’t agree or believe just like you do. You’re just angry that I’m treating you the exact way you deserve and giving you the same exact treatment you heap onto anyone that isn’t bowing before you.
    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    Lie to yourself all you want, but not to me. You’re not here for honest discussion, you’re here to brow beat and feel superior to anyone that doesn’t agree or believe just like you do. You’re just angry that I’m treating you the exact way you deserve and giving you the same exact treatment you heap onto anyone that isn’t bowing before you.
    That's a little harsh, lilpix. As far as I can tell, he's posting what he honestly thinks, doesn't see that he's coming across as feeling superior to everyone else, and doesn't see that he's bashing people just as much as those he castigates. We all tend to be blind to our own failings, especially when we become emotionally invested in an argument.
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