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  • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    Did any of these people use private e mail to send classified material?
    Doesnt matter in terms of my correction to mm. The usual here is to minimize what Trump has done/is doing and maximize deeds by multiple other actors in an attempt to normalize his behavior. My point is simply to bring it back to a more realistic comparison.
    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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    • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
      Doesnt matter in terms of my correction to mm. The usual here is to minimize what Trump has done/is doing and maximize deeds by multiple other actors in an attempt to normalize his behavior. My point is simply to bring it back to a more realistic comparison.
      We know you hate Trump Jim, but that doesn’t change the fact standard practice never was to use private e mail to send and receive classified information. You’re attempting to mud up the waters to hide that little detail. The issue isn’t using private e mails, it’s using it to send classified material. You’re not covering this detail is a slap in the face to everyone that had handled classified material. It shows either Hillary’s incompetence is on scale of Mr Magoo or she was actively trying to hide stuff. Either answer, isn’t good. Why do you ignore that point?
      Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 11-11-2019, 09:36 AM.
      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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      • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
        Other than mind reading the demand was specific. Trtump was trying to get Zelensky to root out corruption in general, he was specifically asking him to go after Biden.
        Not according to the testimony we've seen.

        When Vindlan was challenged to support his claim that Trump demanded that Ukraine investigate Biden, he spent several minutes looking through the call transcript and came up empty.

        vindman-4.jpg vindman-5.jpg
        https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ber-29th-2019/

        And Sondland testified that "I recall hearing multiple reasons why the aid was being held from various people. I never heard that it was being held specifically to investigate the Bidens. I never heard the word ‘Biden’ mentioned with aid," and that when he called President Trump for clarification that "[The President] said: ‘I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. I want Zelensky to do the right thing.’ And I said: ‘What does that mean?’ And he said: ‘I want him to do what he ran on.’ And that was the end of the conversation."
        https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-quid-pro-quo/
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Well, Hillary is not POTUS and SCOTUS is not Hillary's.
          Defending her as being an incompetent, Mr Magoo, that shouldn’t be handling the information of a used car dealership, didn’t seem like a winning strategy, in hindsight. Who would have thought?
          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
            The usual here is to minimize what Trump has done/is doing...
            We're not minimizing anything. We're simply pointing out what Trump actually did as opposed to what he is accused of doing.

            But it's like:

            Liberals: "Trump eats babies for breakfast!"
            Conservatives: "Actually, he has pancakes every morning."
            Liberals: "Why do you try to minimize what Trump has done!"
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              Not according to the testimony we've seen.

              When Vindlan was challenged to support his claim that Trump demanded that Ukraine investigate Biden, he spent several minutes looking through the call transcript and came up empty.

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              https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ber-29th-2019/

              And Sondland testified that "I recall hearing multiple reasons why the aid was being held from various people. I never heard that it was being held specifically to investigate the Bidens. I never heard the word ‘Biden’ mentioned with aid," and that when he called President Trump for clarification that "[The President] said: ‘I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. I want Zelensky to do the right thing.’ And I said: ‘What does that mean?’ And he said: ‘I want him to do what he ran on.’ And that was the end of the conversation."
              https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-quid-pro-quo/
              Okay, so Trumped extorted Zelensky with respect to the foolish crowdstrike conspiracy, now if you are going to cherrypick the transcript go further into the call and cherrypick the part where Trump talks about Biden, how Zelensky should look into it, how he should speak with Giuliani and Atty Gen. Barr about it, and get to the bottom of it.

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              • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                We're not minimizing anything. We're simply pointing out what Trump actually did as opposed to what he is accused of doing.

                But it's like:

                Liberals: "Trump eats babies for breakfast!"
                Conservatives: "Actually, he has pancakes every morning."
                Liberals: "Why do you try to minimize what Trump has done!"
                Again, the normal here is to minimize the wrong dose by trump, and maximize the wrong done by otgerscin an attempt to normalize trumos behavior. That is the dynamic here from yourself and those that agree with you.
                My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
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                  If I tell you about a conversation I heard that is hearsay
                  It's eyewitness testimony that the conversation occurred, but hearsay regarding the conversation's contents.
                  Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                  MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                  MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                  seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                  • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                    Okay, so Trumped extorted Zelensky...
                    "There was no pressure or blackmail from the U.S."
                    -President Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                      Again, the normal here is to minimize the wrong dose by trump, and maximize the wrong done by otgerscin ...
                      Say what?

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • Originally posted by Roy View Post
                        It's eyewitness testimony that the conversation occurred, but hearsay regarding the conversation's contents.
                        That's the point I was trying to make.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          We're not minimizing anything. We're simply pointing out what Trump actually did as opposed to what he is accused of doing.

                          But it's like:

                          Liberals: "Trump eats babies for breakfast!"
                          Conservatives: "Actually, he has pancakes every morning."
                          Liberals: "Why do you try to minimize what Trump has done!"
                          Kinda like the boy who keeps crying wolf is whining about how everyone is minimizing the number of and damage done by the non-existent wolves.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                            Defending her as being an incompetent, Mr Magoo, that shouldn’t be handling the information of a used car dealership, didn’t seem like a winning strategy, in hindsight. Who would have thought?
                            Let's not forget possibly brain damaged in a fall -- her excuse for forgetting basic procedures for handling classified information.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Say what?
                              Just a goofy character mixup I didnt notice in time to correct because I was outside showing a bunch of middle and high schoolers the Mercury transit in my scope- with filter of course-
                              My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                              If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                              This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                              • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                                Just a goofy character mixup I didnt notice in time to correct because I was outside showing a bunch of middle and high schoolers the Mercury transit in my scope- with filter of course-
                                Kinda figured it would be something like that, but am at a loss at who "otgerscin" is.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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