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11-22-2019, 09:05 AM
#781
See, the Thing is...

Originally Posted by
Mountain Man
Schiff is stuck on this one because he's also trying to skate out from under the fact that he coordinated with Ciaramella to draft the "whistle blower" complaint, so he's trying to maintain an air of plausible denial by claiming, unconvincingly, that he doesn't know the guy.
Just wait til he gets called by the Senate to testify under oath.
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11-22-2019, 09:11 AM
#782
See, the Thing is...
So, Schiff could be outright lying about not knowing the alleged whistle blower's identity.... and he almost CERTAINLY is....

Originally Posted by
Cow Poke
Really simple yes or no question - do you honestly believe that Schiff does not know who the alleged whistle blower is?
But it gets handwaved away because he's vigorously prosecuting Trump...

Originally Posted by
Tassman
Does it matter given that the whistle-blower's complaints have been corroborated by numerous people. Besides he/she is protected by the Whistleblower Protection Act.

Originally Posted by
oxmixmudd
Doesn't matter. But it is unlikely he does not know....

Originally Posted by
JimL
Couldn't care less if he does or not, since it has nothing to do with the evidence uncovered.
I guess it's only bad when Republicans lie?
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11-22-2019, 09:13 AM
#783

Originally Posted by
Cow Poke
If he knows, and he's ADAMantly declaring he doesn't, then he's lying - but that's probably OK, too, since he's your guy. So that doesn't surprise me at all.
No, the fact is that it doesn't matter and he has a responsibility by law to protect the whistleblower. You need to stop swallowing the irrelevant stuff your favorite propagandists are feeding you.
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11-22-2019, 09:15 AM
#784

Originally Posted by
Cow Poke
Doesn't matter? SERIOUSLY???? Jim, you KNOW that he knows. There's no way he can NOT know. He is flat out lying about this, and everybody knows it.
But it "doesn't matter"?
I guess that's OK, though - he hates Trump.

And you take vigorous exception to me 'divining' your moods and motives, yet look at your last statement ...
My dismissal of the issue has nothing to do with 'he hates trump'. It has to do with my agreement with the idea that the whistle blower needs to be protected against GOP and POTUS reprisal, and he is right not to reveal his identity if he knows it (as in knows officially as opposed to just having seen what the rumor is). If I was him I would not lie about knowing who it is (assuming he is lying) but IMHO he would not be wrong if he did.
He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"
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11-22-2019, 09:17 AM
#785
tWebber

Originally Posted by
oxmixmudd
So you would smear me?
What is it with you and this sudden obsession with accusing people of engaging in a "smear"?
Edit: Ah, well, it looks like you quickly edited your post in the time it took me to respond, so apparently even you recognize that you were starting to go little over the top.
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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11-22-2019, 09:17 AM
#786

Originally Posted by
Cow Poke
I guess it's only bad when Republicans lie?
You are assuming he is lying, because that's what you've been told. You have no clue, and it gets hand waved away because it's irrelevant.
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11-22-2019, 09:18 AM
#787

Originally Posted by
Cow Poke
So, Schiff could be outright lying about not knowing the alleged whistle blower's identity.... and he almost CERTAINLY is....
But it gets handwaved away because he's vigorously prosecuting Trump...
I guess it's only bad when Republicans lie?
I guess you would tell the cartel you knew where the fellow they were trying to kill was hiding? And you would accuse someone that lied about it of being a liar and equal to the lies of the cartel members seeking to kill the fellow?
He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"
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JimL amen'd this post.
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11-22-2019, 09:20 AM
#788
See, the Thing is...

Originally Posted by
JimL
You are assuming he is lying,
Yes, I am, because, like Ox said "it is unlikely he does not know...."
because that's what you've been told. You have no clue,
It would be nearly impossible for Schiff not to know, and if he knows, he's lying when he says he does not.
and it gets hand waved away because it's irrelevant.
Like I said - he's a Democrat, so, yeah, he gets a pass for lying.
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11-22-2019, 09:21 AM
#789

Originally Posted by
Mountain Man
What is it with you and this sudden obsession with accusing people of engaging in a "smear"?
Edit: Ah, well, it looks like you quickly edited your post in the time it took me to respond, so apparently even you recognize that you were starting to go little over the top.

I knew there was a better, more accurate way to express what I was noticing - yes.
He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"
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11-22-2019, 09:22 AM
#790
See, the Thing is...

Originally Posted by
oxmixmudd
I guess you would tell the cartel you knew where the fellow they were trying to kill was hiding? And you would accuse someone that lied about it of being a liar and equal to the lies of the cartel members seeking to kill the fellow?
Oh, for crying out loud. You're SERIOUSLY going to claim that Schiff can't just honestly say "It is my duty to protect the identity of the witness" (even though that's a stretch) when everybody KNOWS who the whistle blower is? Are you that desperate to defend Schiff that you'd stoop to this nonsense?
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