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  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Keep telling yourself that.

    I've posted several instances (IIRC, addressing you at least once) where various basic claims have been shown to be false.

    Putting aside an attempt on your part that you should be ashamed of, the point that you appear to be blinded to is that Star is saying that Ciaramella is not a whistleblower but a leaker. Note the bolded part please.

    And this means that he is not covered by any Whistleblower statute because he is not a whistleblower but instead is simply a leaker.
    I don't believe that is a distinction in this case. And I am still surprised you are willing to advocate for the criminal and punish the person trying to expose the criminal activity.

    Jim
    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      It wasn't a mistake, Jim, and I think you know that. It was an observation, and it still stands.

      I don't think anybody here had any doubt you were referring to the so-called "whistle-blower", but it could just as well apply to the object of your current obsession.

      Which is EGGzackly why I said....
      A very sad day when Christians rally together to punish the innocent and protect the guilty.
      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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      • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
        A very sad day when Christians rally together to punish the innocent and protect the guilty.
        Is this another unjustified swipe at me, Jim? Is this really who you've become?

        I'm not "rallying" with anybody to "punish the innocent", and I'm certainly not "protecting the guilty", yet you chose to post this little swat as a response to my post.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          A very sad day when Christians rally together to punish the innocent and protect the guilty.
          log Eye

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Is this the one being touted as the Shifty Schiff Empowerment Resolution?

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            • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
              A very sad day when Christians rally together to punish the innocent and protect the guilty.
              Just out of curiosity, Jim, assuming "the innocent" refers to my "so-called 'whistle-blower'" comment, might I ask on what basis you declare him "innocent"?
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Shifty Schiff is doling out portions of the hearing transcripts. From what I've seen, they're full of statements like "I presumed", and "I felt that", and "I took it mean" ...

                In other words, not a lot of substance.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                  A very sad day when Christians rally together to punish the innocent and protect the guilty.
                  This self-righteous statement suggests that you have no idea which side you're really on.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    This self-righteous statement suggests that you have no idea which side you're really on.
                    I'm on the side that recognizes that the whistleblower was privy to information Donald Trump was engaged a very bad and illegal action with the Ukraine. Knowledge that he felt a responsibility to bring it to light. And I support those that act for good based on clear and long established values of right and wrong.

                    And I am on the side that will push back against those that adopt the mobster mentality of punishing those that expose the their crimes
                    Last edited by oxmixmudd; 11-05-2019, 03:50 PM.
                    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                    • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                      I'm on the side that recognizes that the whistleblower was privy to information Donald Trump was engaged a very bad and illegal action with the Ukraine. Knowkedge that he felt a responsibility to bring it to light.
                      How do you know this, Jim? If it's who it's reported to be, the guy is a serial leaker with a strong political bias.

                      And I am on the side that will push back against those that adopt the mobster mentality of punishing those that expose their crimes
                      "mobster mentality"? Since when does seeking the truth equate to "mobster mentality"?
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        How do you know this, Jim? If it's who it's reported to be, the guy is a serial leaker with a strong political bias.
                        What he reported happened.


                        "mobster mentality"? Since when does seeking the truth equate to "mobster mentality"?
                        Whistle blower laws protect the whistleblower from retaliation. They do that for a reason. We know the truth about what happened on the call as a result of the investigation and the information he brought to light. He had just cause to blow the whistle. But we do not need his name. The eyewitness testimony and the transcript is what we need, and we have it.

                        The only people that need his name are those seeking retribution. Which is why the law grant's him anonymity.

                        The criminals want him punished CP. I will not join that side.
                        Last edited by oxmixmudd; 11-05-2019, 04:04 PM.
                        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                        • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                          Whistke blower laws protect the whistleblower from retaliation. They so that for a reason.we knot the truth about what happened on the call as a result of the investigation. We do not need his name. The only people that need his name are those seeking retribution. Which is why the law Grant's him anonymity.
                          You kinda failed to answer the part about the "mobster mentality". Particularly since, in a prior post, you implied that the Christians here were "rally[ing] together to punish the innocent and protect the guilty".

                          Where is this "mobster mentality"?
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                            What he reported happened.
                            still waiting for the proof of that Oxmix. I've seen lots of factual proof it didn't. No, feelings and opinions are not factual proofs.

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                            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              I really don't think you're the guy I should look to as the source of my 'wonderings'.
                              Very adult, thoughtful, and non-personal answer there, CP.

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                              • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                Very adult, thoughtful, and non-personal answer there, CP.
                                I stand by it, Jim. You're not the guy. Sorry if you take it personally.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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