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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Yup, pretty much.

    So many people, including myself, were on the fence before the transcript came out, saying "it seems worth investigating the whistleblower complaint, but I don't necessarily expect them to find much ". Then Trump released the smoking gun transcript of him committing the crime. And with out jaws hanging open we were like, "um, wow. Yeah. Impeachment is obviously the only option. He's toast."
    As I see it, the 'it's nothing' side of this are giving a man proven to lie almost daily an abnormal, in the best of circumstances, 'benefit of the doubt'. Given Trump's record of shady activities, from the stormy Daniels pay off to the pre election back channel to putin, to the list of shady characters he has surrounded himself with, many now in jail, to the parade of men and women of integrity pushed out specifically because they would not yield on whether or not something Trump wanted to do was illegal, there is no rational basis for giving him such a 'benefit of the doubt'
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Yup, pretty much.

    So many people, including myself, were on the fence before the transcript came out, saying "it seems worth investigating the whistleblower complaint, but I don't necessarily expect them to find much ". Then Trump released the smoking gun transcript of him committing the crime. And with out jaws hanging open we were like, "um, wow. Yeah. Impeachment is obviously the only option. He's toast."


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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    As I see it, the 'it's nothing' side of this are giving a man proven to lie almost daily an abnormal, in the best of circumstances, 'benefit of the doubt'. Given Trump's record of shady activities, from the stormy Daniels pay off to the pre election back channel to putin, to the list of shady characters he has surrounded himself with, many now in jail, to the parade of men and women of integrity pushed out specifically because they would not yield on whether or not something Trump wanted to do was illegal, there is no rational basis for giving him such a 'benefit of the doubt'
    Much like there’s no rational bases to assume it’s possible to have a conversation with you, about Trump, that isn’t filled with hysterics. Of course, if we apply your standards evenly, we wouldn’t be giving benefits of the doubt to the media, congress, most of Hollywood, many businessmen, nor our ruling elite. Yet, you will never do that.
    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    It would be an very interesting study in human psychology to understand how normally intelligent people on both sides can see the content of the transcript so differently.
    I think it's worth noting at this point that Obamacare architect John Gruber infamously said that the Democrat party depends on the stupidity of its voters to move their agenda forward.
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    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    I think it's worth noting at this point that Obamacare architect John Gruber infamously said that the Democrat party depends on the stupidity of its voters to move their agenda forward.
    Technically, he said that Obamacare was deliberately written "in a tortured way" to conceal things from the public and then smugly added that the obfuscation succeeded due to "the stupidity of the American voter."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Technically, he said that Obamacare was deliberately written "in a tortured way" to conceal things from the public and then smugly added that the obfuscation succeeded due to "the stupidity of the American voter."
    And I'm certain that tactic did not begin and end with Obamacare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    And I'm certain that tactic did not begin and end with Obamacare.
    Makes you look at bureaucratic jargon with a slightly more jaundiced eye

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    [hysterics]Much like there’s no rational bases to assume it’s possible to have a conversation with you, about Trump, that isn’t filled with hysterics.[/hysterics] Of course, if we apply your standards evenly, we wouldn’t be giving benefits of the doubt to the media, congress, most of Hollywood, many businessmen, nor our ruling elite. Yet, you will never do that.
    I would apply my words evenly pix. But they can't be extended generally and without prejudice to large groups of people like you are doing here. They would need to be applied on a case by case basis to individuals that demonstrate the same sorts of low integrity behavior as the examples I gave relating to Donald Trump.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I would apply my words evenly pix. But they can't be extended generally and without prejudice to large groups of people like you are doing here. They would need to be applied on a case by case basis to individuals that demonstrate the same sorts of low integrity behavior as the examples I gave relating to Donald Trump.
    ABC and NBC squashed stories related to Epstein, congress had a tax paid fund that several members used to pay off women accusing them of sexual harassment, Hollywood hid Weinstein's many sexual encounters, for over 20 years, etc. Feel free to dispute any of these stories because our elite class is filled with moral degenerates and their enablers. Like I said, you won’t apply your standards across the board.
    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    ABC and NBC squashed stories related to Epstein, congress had a tax paid fund that several members used to pay off women accusing them of sexual harassment, Hollywood hid Weinstein's many sexual encounters, for over 20 years, etc. Feel free to dispute any of these stories because our elite class is filled with moral degenerates and their enablers. Like I said, you won’t apply your standards across the board.
    Why wouldn't I? Of course I would.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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