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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, the fact is that it doesn't matter and he has a responsibility by law to protect the whistleblower. You need to stop swallowing the irrelevant stuff your favorite propagandists are feeding you.
2) No, he isn't."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostThat's what makes this so insane - the Senate is talking full trial. Schiff, the gossip (what whistle blower), Joe Biden and Hunter Biden will all be called to testify.
He kinds reminds me of the guy (when I was in High School) who always talked about leading a charge across the field at our "hometown rival" football game, and finally a bunch of guys decided to go along.
At the assigned time, just as halftime started, he went screaming across the field to the other side, yelling obscenities all the way, waving "the finger", only to discover midfield that nobody was following. Oooooops.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYes, I am, because, like Ox said "it is unlikely he does not know...."
It would be nearly impossible for Schiff not to know, and if he knows, he's lying when he says he does not.
Like I said - he's a Democrat, so, yeah, he gets a pass for lying.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt's like Schiff just didn't think this through -- he was SO SURE it was gonna be a slam dunk that the whole world would be swayed by him, and that the Republicans in the House would have no choice but to capitulate.
He kinds reminds me of the guy (when I was in High School) who always talked about leading a charge across the field at our "hometown rival" football game, and finally a bunch of guys decided to go along.
At the assigned time, just as halftime started, he went screaming across the field to the other side, yelling obscenities all the way, waving "the finger", only to discover midfield that nobody was following. Oooooops.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe whistleblower law, first of all is a law, and it is a law for a good reason, Tea
The statute does not apply to Congress - or even the executive*. Just the employing agency.
*except as employer."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostThe statute does not obligate anyone other than the employer - and I don't think the requirement to withhold identity is even in it. Regardless, once the name became public knowledge the law no longer applied.
The statute does not apply to Congress - or even the executive*. Just the employing agency.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe law is meant to protect federal whistleblowers who work in the government, Tea. The statute applies to all of government."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, it's like Schiff thought it his duty to carry out what the constitution charges him with doing whether republicans in congress are principled enough in their response to the evidence or not.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostFake news. Eric Ciaramella claimed that Trump repeatedly mentioned Biden in his phone call with President Zelensky
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJim, take a deep breath and think about this a minute ---- EVERYBODY besides "lying for the Lord" Schiff knows who the alleged whistle blower is. If anybody wanted to do him harm, his name is already out there. It is absolutely preposterous to defend Schiff's lying on that basis.
You are doing exactly the same thing you accuse "Trumpsters" of doing.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe law is meant to protect federal whistleblowers who work in the government, Tea. The statute applies to all of government.
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Is this the law in question? Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989.
There are various "Whistleblower" laws. Really, none that I've found seem to be a perfect fit. This one only specifically bars the "Special Counsel" from identifying Ciaramella, and no such entity is currently involved AFAIK.
I do wish people like The Great One Levin would make a practice of citing the actual statute, by official name, H.R. number, Senate number, whatever -- something specific -- rather than just saying, "Ciaramella doesn't qualify as a whistleblower under the statute" or "The statute does not require anonymity."Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostIs this the law in question? Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989.
There are various "Whistleblower" laws. Really, none that I've found seem to be a perfect fit. This one only specifically bars the "Special Counsel" from identifying Ciaramella, and no such entity is currently involved AFAIK.
I do wish people like The Great One Levin would make a practice of citing the actual statute, by official name, H.R. number, Senate number, whatever -- something specific -- rather than just saying, "Ciaramella doesn't qualify as a whistleblower under the statute" or "The statute does not require anonymity."
The Bush administration abused the system, in my opinion, then Obama really opened the floodgates - while pretending to be all about "protecting whistle blowers", he ended up, according to the Long Island Press and other sources, prosecuting them like crazy...
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One man's "whistle blower" is another man's traitor.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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