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  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I'm not bashing, Sparko - I'm sincerely disappointed that any attempt to reach out to him gets labeled as an attack.

    I'm done (again - yeah, I know, I keep trying, and keep getting swatted down) trying to reason with him, and suggest he stop trying to talk to me, and stop bringing my name up in his attacks on others.
    Good luck with that - I have him on ignore and my name still gets brought up occasionally.

    It's not bitterness - it's hatred. Not the transient, hot emotional kind - the deep seated loathing that rots the soul. His hatred of Trump, and his prideful need to be right, are more important to him now than his love of God or the concern of his brothers and sisters.

    Every attempt to confront him has failed - for now, this brother is lost to us.

    Leave him to the world and pray instead - when he tires of pig slop, God will be there, and so will we.
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    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      I'm not bashing, Sparko - I'm sincerely disappointed that any attempt to reach out to him gets labeled as an attack.

      I'm done (again - yeah, I know, I keep trying, and keep getting swatted down) trying to reason with him, and suggest he stop trying to talk to me, and stop bringing my name up in his attacks on others.
      It becomes bashing when it never stops and everyone dog piles on him. It has been going on for several pages now.

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      • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
        There are no helping hands here, only people honing their spitting skills.
        As I told you before, until you drop your base assumptions, any and all discussion is impossible with you.
        "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
        GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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        • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
          As I told you before, until you drop your base assumptions, any and all discussion is impossible with you.
          I don't think that is it pix ...
          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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          • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
            I don't think that is it pix ...
            That’s just what it is. You assume Trump is evil and anyone that doesn’t agree with this opinion is stupid, evil, or both. There’s no reasoning with you and it’s pointless to even bother, as long as you hold onto this base assumption.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
              That’s just what it is. You assume Trump is evil and anyone that doesn’t agree with this opinion is stupid, evil, or both. There’s no reasoning with you and it’s pointless to even bother, as long as you hold onto this base assumption.
              You are pretty much the other side of the same coin, lpot.

              sigh.

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              • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                That’s just what it is. You assume Trump is evil and anyone that doesn’t agree with this opinion is stupid, evil, or both. There’s no reasoning with you and it’s pointless to even bother, as long as you hold onto this base assumption.
                Depends on your definition of “evil.” If you can judge someone “evil” for his actions, like having extramarital sex with a porn star or impulsively tweeting ad hom, then oxmix isn’t far off the mark—even if you exclude Trump’s other flaws as leader of the free world.

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                • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  You are pretty much the other side of the same coin, lpot.

                  sigh.
                  Trump isn’t a saint nor the devil. He has tons of flaws and good points too, but there is no arguing with either extreme. You can’t win nor discuss a thing when everything is: “This the worst thing ever!!!” not everything is enemies banging at the gates.
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                  • Originally posted by whag View Post
                    Depends on your definition of “evil.” If you can judge someone “evil” for his actions, like having extramarital sex with a porn star or impulsively tweeting ad hom, then oxmix isn’t far off the mark—even if you exclude Trump’s other flaws as leader of the free world.
                    Whag, it’s really easy to point fingers and say how great you are, but it’s not as easy to point them the other way. One of my uncles was as bad as Trump. You know those list that have a list of bad things on them and you’re supposed to say how many you’ve done? He only had one bad thing he didn’t do, lying, cheating, stealing, etc. did them all. Today, he doesn’t do any of that stuff. Has Trump truly repented or is he doing it for votes? IDK, maybe, but I know lots of people I know would be as ‘evil as Trump’ shall I condemn them too?
                    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                    GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                    • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                      Trump isn’t a saint nor the devil. He has tons of flaws and good points too, but there is no arguing with either extreme. You can’t win nor discuss a thing when everything is: “This the worst thing ever!!!” not everything is enemies banging at the gates.
                      You would never have said this of a democrat. As Sparko said, you are the flip side of the same coin. If you can’t admit to that (as many here have done), you can’t admit to anything.

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                      • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                        Has Trump truly repented or is he doing it for votes? IDK,
                        Did you really say “IDK”? Are you really that naive?


                        Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                        maybe, but I know lots of people I know would be as ‘evil as Trump’ shall I condemn them too?
                        Yes, I believe that Jesus told you to condemn all evil so long as you don’t have a plank in your eye and acknowledge that no one is excluded from salvation.

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                        • Originally posted by whag View Post
                          You would never and have never said this if a democrat. As Sparko said, you are the flip side of the same coin. If you can’t admit to that (as many here have done), you can’t admit to anything.
                          Sure I would. Do you know who I think is the most moral, post WW2 President? Jimmy Carter with Harry Truman not too far behind (Truman ranks as one of my top 5 presidents too). Do you know who I think appears to be a great father and husband? Barack Obama. I can say plenty of good things about democrats. In fact, I’d be thrilled if I heard Bill Clinton repented from the things he’s done and even than, I don’t see him as evil either. Pure evil is very rare and as far as I can tell, no president has been pure evil. There’s your assumptions there whag, I come from a strong democrat family, the JFK or Truman kind of democrats. You’re entitled to your opinion though, no matter how wrong it is. I don’t hate the democrat party, I hate what it has become. There’s a difference.
                          Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 12-05-2019, 01:18 PM.
                          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                          • Originally posted by whag View Post
                            Did you really say “IDK”? Are you really that naive?
                            Do you have evidence of adultery going on, in the past few years?

                            Yes, I believe that Jesus told you to condemn all evil so long as you don’t have a plank in your eye and acknowledge that no one is excluded from salvation.
                            Show me where I made an excuse for Trump’s adultery. I’ll wait.
                            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                            • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                              Sure I would. Do you know who I think is the most moral, post WW2 President? Jimmy Carter with Harry Truman not too far behind (Truman ranks as one of my top 5 presidents too). Do you know who I think appears to be a great father and husband? Barack Obama. I can say plenty of good things about democrats. In fact, I’d be thrilled if I heard Bill Clinton repented from the things he’s done and even than, I don’t see him as evil either. Pure evil is very rare and as far as I can tell, no president has been pure evil.
                              Okay I’m sorry I misjudged you. Consider that maybe people react so strongly to Clinton (a confirmed rapist and serial adulterer) and Trump (a confirmed narcissist and proud nincompoop) because they are extreme cases of political villains. That tends to spawn very hyperbolic attacks because they themselves are hyperbolic figures.

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                              • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                                Show me where I made an excuse for Trump’s adultery. I’ll wait.
                                I never said you make an excuse for Trump’s flawed moral character. At the very most, I was saying you misapprehend why people feel so strongly that he’s diminished the dignity of the presidency in the same way or worse than Clinton.

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