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Trump loses yet another case in court.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostOf course. I can recommend it to you. Rachel is my first love but Virginia is a close second.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'll add it to my list of stuff I'll probably never get around to reading / listening to.
I need to read up on Mark Joseph Stern.Last edited by firstfloor; 11-05-2019, 05:41 PM.
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Even if we are only counting what other people can do (i.e. not counting resignation, as that's the personal decision of the judge), it is possible to impeach any federal judge. Granted, it's a difficult process and occurs very rarely, but it's incorrect to claim the only way to get rid of them is to kill them.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe previous Administration obstructed Congress so blatantly that the Attorney General was held in contempt of Congress for the first time ever where even 17 Democrats voted to support the measure. IIRC, the Obama Administration routinely ignored subpoenas for documents and often didn't even bother offering an excuse like Executive Privilege for their refusal. They just simply ignored the requests.
I'm not being flippant and this isn't a matter of whats right or wrong but whats acceptable or unacceptable in the publics perception. It seems like the public accepted that those in positions of power would abuse it to some extent. Since the support for impeachment is now the majority position amongst the public it would indicate that its no longer acceptable. The alternative would be to let every future president get away with anything previous presidents had done.
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostSince the support for impeachment is now the majority position amongst the public...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostDepends on what poll you're looking at; and what segment of the population is being polled.
That would be a badly designed survey, but it might be worth a headline on Fox News.Last edited by firstfloor; 11-06-2019, 01:24 AM.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'll add it to my list of stuff I'll probably never get around to reading / listening to."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostSo should everyone going forward just be content with using the 'whataboutism' defense? Is your argument that everyone should get away with something if someone else in the past has gotten away with it?
I'm not being flippant and this isn't a matter of whats right or wrong but whats acceptable or unacceptable in the publics perception. It seems like the public accepted that those in positions of power would abuse it to some extent. Since the support for impeachment is now the majority position amongst the public it would indicate that its no longer acceptable. The alternative would be to let every future president get away with anything previous presidents had done."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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I think it's worse than that. They definitely covered up the truth when Obama was in the White House, but to suggest they are reporting the straight facts now would be naive considering the prevalence of fake news that has erupted since at least 2016.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Robert Katzmann Appointed by William J. Clinton
Denny Chin Appointed by Barack Obama
Christopher Droney Appointed by Barack Obama
Trump never stood a chance against 3 liberal justices...That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostArgued Before: KATZMANN, Chief Judge, CHIN and DRONEY, Circuit Judges.
Robert Katzmann Appointed by William J. Clinton
Denny Chin Appointed by Barack Obama
Christopher Droney Appointed by Barack Obama
Trump never stood a chance against 3 liberal justices...
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Originally posted by JimL View PostReally, so he'll have no problem in the SCOTUS then, right?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostProbably not since there is no mandate for anyone to release their taxes. Oh, the Stygian Witches on the SCOTUS will no doubt naturally vote against him, but he will win nonetheless.
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