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Thread: Sondland admits quid pro quo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermelon View Post
    That..... makes no sense. You literally can't plead guilty to something that isn't a crime.
    My wife asked if I ate her half of the carrot cake cupcake. You would have THOUGHT it was a crime the way she looked at me, but.... guilty!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Yeah, he pleaded guilty to something that wasn't a crime. Former chairman of the FEC said no laws were broken.
    Well laws were broken which is why Cohen is in jail. He was sentenced to three years in prison for financial crimes and for orchestrating hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal. This was done, according Cohen, at the direction of Trump shortly before the election so as not to jeopardize his chances during the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Nullified nothing. Sondland says he "presumed". Frankly, he can presume whatever he wants. That doesn't make it a fact.
    Just like with collusion you have the facts and actual evidence on the one side while on the other you have presumptions, speculations, jaundiced opinions and good old blind hatred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermelon View Post
    That..... makes no sense. You literally can't plead guilty to something that isn't a crime.
    People do so all the time for a wide variety of reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermelon View Post
    That..... makes no sense. You literally can't plead guilty to something that isn't a crime.
    Allow me to clarify: what he did wasn't a crime, but he pleaded guilty to a falae accusation as part of his plea deal.
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    Virginia Heffernan spoke to Ross Garber on Trumpcast. I wonder if Pelosi might not do impeachment after all. it looks like Trump could get off if he handles Rudy the right way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Virginia Heffernan spoke to Ross Garber on Trumpcast. I wonder if Pelosi might not do impeachment after all. it looks like Trump could get off if he handles Rudy the right way.
    Hasn't Pelosi given the green light for impeachment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    People do so all the time for a wide variety of reasons.
    So, you'd go so far as to say that the Special Prosecutor is so corrupt that they are forcing witnesses to lie about the President of the U.S.? And no, people don't do it all the time, occassionally, naive people without lawyers are pressured into pleading guilty to crimes they didn't commit, not innocent people with great lawyers. Cohen pleaded guilty because he was obviously guilty, and he implicated Trump because there's a recording of him and Trump discussing the scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Hasn't Pelosi given the green light for impeachment?
    Open hearings begin next week.

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