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    Whistleblower Laws

    I have a question for Bill the Cat and those who have looked in to these laws.

    Does a whistleblower lose their protection if they have lied in the report or form they fill out when making the report to the government?

    More questions to come after I get the answer to this.
    Last edited by RumTumTugger; 11-05-2019 at 05:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RumTumTugger View Post
    I have a question for Bill the Cat and those who have looked in to these laws.

    Does a whistleblower lose their protection if they have lied in the report or form they fill out when making the report to the government?

    More questions to come after I get the answer to this.
    No. The law is clear that they are to remain free from retaliation even if there is no action taken on their complaint. The complaint need not even be factual for the protections to take place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    No. The law is clear that they are to remain free from retaliation even if there is no action taken on their complaint. The complaint need not even be factual for the protections to take place.
    Is the application form different then the report? if the whistleblower lied on the application form in anyway would that make them lose the status?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RumTumTugger View Post
    Is the application form different then the report? if the whistleblower lied on the application form in anyway would that make them lose the status?
    No. It would just result in the claim being dismissed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    No. It would just result in the claim being dismissed
    so even if the form does prompted the person to certify to certify “that all of the statements made in this complaint (including any continuation pages) are true, complete, and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief.” with a statement such as this The punishment for making a “false statement or concealment of a material fact” is “a fine of up to $10,000, imprisonment for up to five years, or both,” in it?

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    This would seem to suggest that if someone wanted to cause trouble for his boss, he could simply file a false "whistleblower" complaint without repercussions.
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    I've been checking into this myself, and the answer varies depending on the political leaning of the site. There are a couple of revisions to the federal law, but it does appear that the protection of the complainant is pretty rock solid for federal employees, including, depending on the site, anonymity.
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RumTumTugger View Post
    so even if the form does prompted the person to certify to certify “that all of the statements made in this complaint (including any continuation pages) are true, complete, and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief.” with a statement such as this The punishment for making a “false statement or concealment of a material fact” is “a fine of up to $10,000, imprisonment for up to five years, or both,” in it?
    Proving the whistleblower knew their statement is false is pretty hard. All they have to show is that they reasonsbly thought it was true. The threat clause is there to scare those who know they are lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    This would seem to suggest that if someone wanted to cause trouble for his boss, he could simply file a false "whistleblower" complaint without repercussions.
    Oh it happens more frequently than you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Proving the whistleblower knew their statement is false is pretty hard. All they have to show is that they reasonsbly thought it was true. The threat clause is there to scare those who know they are lying.
    what if someone didn't didn’t check the box on the application that asks to disclose whether he or she has previously communicated the allegations to “Congress or congressional committees.” when he or she did indeed would it be reasonbale to assume that they knew they concealed a material fact?
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