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  • #16
    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    I believe the reverse is true considering the history racial gerrymandering by Republicans.
    This begs the entire question of the purpose of districts in the first place. They were intended to group like people with like interests and needs together to vote. This was the purpose of districting cities as whole units. That minorities congregated in cities was not the issue, although the Dems used the existing racial tensions to get their own redistricting plan put in place. And as I cited above, this redistricting accounted for almost all of the flipped seats, not any suburban drift to the left. I live in one of those suburban districts that got gerrymandered this year, but our Republican rep won
    That's what
    - She

    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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    • #17
      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
      By your logic only the Native Americans are Virginians.


      I was born in Maryland and lived in both Maryland and Virginia when I was young. Part of my family's tree and flower Nursery was South of Arlington. My sister graduated from University of Richmond.
      You do not live here.
      That's what
      - She

      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
      - Stephen R. Donaldson

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      • #18
        The Republicans won the popular vote in Va

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/elect.../state-senate/

        808,633 Democratic votes, 843,652 Republican votes and 112,897 votes for other candidates have been counted statewide for all contested state Senate races
        That's what
        - She

        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
        - Stephen R. Donaldson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          Like I told seer, it's only wrong when Republicans do it.
          When Republicans in North Carolina and Virginia both redistricted areas for isolating predominante black districts from dominantly white Republican Districts to reduce the influence of Blacks in representation in elected office that were rejected by the courts, Yes.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
            When Republicans in North Carolina and Virginia both redistricted areas for isolating predominante black districts from dominantly white Republican Districts to reduce the influence of Blacks in representation in elected office that were rejected by the courts, Yes.
            Well as we can see by the turnout numbers, the Dem redistricting effort swung the pendulum to the other direction, and the representation of the popular vote does not reflect the new makeup of either chamber.
            That's what
            - She

            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
              Well as we can see by the turnout numbers, the Dem redistricting effort swung the pendulum to the other direction, and the representation of the popular vote does not reflect the new makeup of either chamber.
              It gave a more ballanced representation approved by the courts. The previous Republican redistricting in both states isolated black representation in only a few districts, and rejected by the courts.
              Last edited by shunyadragon; 11-07-2019, 06:30 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                IT gave a more ballanced representation approved by the courts. The previous Republican redistricting in both states isolated black representation in only a few districts, and rejected by the courts.
                No it didn't, obviously. The numbers bear that out. More Republicans voted than Dems. So why are there more Dem representatives now?
                That's what
                - She

                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                  No it didn't, obviously. The numbers bear that out. More Republicans voted than Dems. So why are there more Dem representatives now?
                  The facts are facts that the Republicans in North Carolina and Virginia lumped most blacks in a few districts to preserve Republican white districts, and the courts rejected this gerrymandered districts. The number of districts are not relevant. One factor is that increased population over time has resulted in more district in all states where there are population increases, and the population has significantly increased in Virginia.

                  In both North Carolina and Virginia many districts remain 70-90% white Republicans. In North Carolina more Democrats voted, but the State Legislature is still controled by Republicans,
                  Last edited by shunyadragon; 11-08-2019, 06:38 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                    The facts are facts that the Republicans in North Carolina and Virginia lumped most blacks in a few districts to preserve Republican white districts, and the courts rejected this gerrymandered districts. The number of districts are not relevant. One factor is that increased population over time has resulted in more district in all states where there are population increases, and the population has significantly increased in Virginia.

                    In both North Carolina and Virginia many districts remain 70-90% white Republicans. In North Carolina more Democrats voted, but the State Legislature is still controled by Republicans,
                    Right. Like I keep saying, it's only wrong when Republicans do it.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                      The facts are facts that the Republicans in North Carolina and Virginia lumped most blacks in a few districts to preserve Republican white districts, and the courts rejected this gerrymandered districts. The number of districts are not relevant. One factor is that increased population over time has resulted in more district in all states where there are population increases, and the population has significantly increased in Virginia.

                      In both North Carolina and Virginia many districts remain 70-90% white Republicans. In North Carolina more Democrats voted, but the State Legislature is still controled by Republicans,
                      The facts are facts that more Republicans voted. Sticking with the leftist mantra of "Popular vote", you should be outraged that the winners of the popular vote in t he state are not in power.
                      That's what
                      - She

                      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                      - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                        The facts are facts that more Republicans voted. Sticking with the leftist mantra of "Popular vote", you should be outraged that the winners of the popular vote in t he state are not in power.
                        Worthy of note the governor elected for the whole state was a Democrat. Disproportionate gerrymandering is the issue. Republicans vote at a higher percentage as Democrats, which is unfortunate, but which is the case in many districts in the state which are 70-90% Republican particularly in Western Virginia.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                          Worthy of note the governor elected for the whole state was a Democrat.
                          3 years ago. Different election.

                          Disproportionate gerrymandering is the issue.
                          No it isn't. Allowing people in Newport News to share a district with people in New Kent is the issue. Cities and farmland have little to nothing in common, so they shouldn't share a delegate.

                          Republicans vote at a higher percentage as Democrats, which is unfortunate,
                          No it isn't.

                          but which is the case in many districts in the state which are 70-90% Republican particularly in Western Virginia.
                          Again, it stands to reason that districts should share interests.
                          That's what
                          - She

                          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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