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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    will stick with the ethical support of science, and not the acrid rhetoric and personal attacks you resort to. {spelling corrected for your benefit)
    Maybe a new needle? That record is still skipping - and it's making the most insane noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    Maybe a new needle? That record is still skipping - and it's making the most insane noise.
    The insane needle noise is yours, because your responses do not warrant anything else.

    Still waiting for some real science . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    The insane needle noise is yours, because your responses do not warrant anything else.

    Still waiting for some real science . . .
    Since you think science has ethics and you can't remember violating your own version of those imaginary ethics in this very thread you're probably gonna have a very, very long wait - you don't know what science is so you're not gonna know when you see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I think I might take the Climate Alarmists more seriously if they were focusing their attention on the biggest polluters.
    Yes, let's focus our attention on the biggest polluter.

    There's only one country which has both a high per capita CO2 emission and a high overall CO2 emission. We should focus on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    Since you think science has ethics and you can't remember violating your own version of those imaginary ethics in this very thread you're probably gonna have a very, very long wait - you don't know what science is so you're not gonna know when you see it.
    Phfffffffffft . . . plop . . . plop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Phfffffffffft . . . plop . . . plop.
    Sounds like you forgot your adult diaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Yes, let's focus our attention on the biggest polluter.

    There's only one country which has both a high per capita CO2 emission and a high overall CO2 emission. We should focus on them.
    Yes, by all means, let's define "polluter" in such a way as to point the finger to the US, even though China is clearly the biggest polluter.

    Dirty deeds: The world's biggest polluters by country

    1. China

    China overtook the United States as the world's biggest carbon dioxide polluter in 2006, and has topped the list ever since.

    In 2012, the communist country pumped an estimated 9.8 billion tons of CO2 into the world's atmosphere from the burning of fossil fuels such as oil and coal. And while emissions grew at a slower pace in 2012 than previous years, China still accounted for 70 percent of the global increase in CO2 emissions that year.

    China's smog levels are notorious. But air pollution is soaring to new heights due to the country's rapid industrialization, reliance on coal power and increased car ownership for a booming population.

    It doesn't help that environmental laws are often ignored, according to green activists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I think I might take the Climate Alarmists more seriously if they were focusing their attention on the biggest polluters.
    By my observations the proponents of Global Warming do focus their attention on the biggest polluters. The problem is the Global Warming deniers defend the biggest polluters like the Trump administration.

    There are reasons why I believe that Global Warming trend cannot be prevented, because it is a world problem with increased population, and a lack of strong world consensus and unified effort to address the problems. Energy demands are far outstripping efforts to reduce CO2 emissions. I support Bjørn Lomborg's view that the primary efforts should be adapt to changes in the world due to Global Warming. We still should have the goal to reduce carbon emissions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Sounds like you forgot your adult diaper.
    You should no better with a background in science to trumpet Teallaura's childish foolishness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I think I might take the Climate Alarmists more seriously if they were focusing their attention on the biggest polluters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Yes, let's focus our attention on the biggest polluter.

    There's only one country which has both a high per capita CO2 emission and a high overall CO2 emission. We should focus on them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Yes, by all means, let's define "polluter" in such a way as to point the finger to the US, even though China is clearly the biggest polluter.

    Dirty deeds: The world's biggest polluters by country

    Blame America First!
    China is the biggest polluter only because they're the biggest country. We can talk about driving population down, or we can talk about dropping emissions per pop, or we can do both.

    Emisssions = pop * emissions/pop

    It's a math thing, goobz, you wouldn't understand.

    But for those that can, your focus on China while living in a high emissions/pop country means you want to take out China's pop, by hundreds of millions, without caring too much how that's done, which is kinda horrifying, or you want to drive them down to a living standard you wouldn't accept for yourself, which is also kinda horrifying, if you knew the math, which you don't, cause you're a goober.

    Feel free to toss your spitballs at the scientists, toss them at Roy, or toss 'em at me if you like. But any way you figure it, that's your drool, and you should clean it up.

    This is our country, well, not Roy's, but hey, it's everyone's world, so let's go with that. This is our world, and we'd like to clean it up, because the science says we've got a problem here. You can lead, follow, or get out of the way. Cause so long as you can't do any of those, you're part of the problem, and you're not helping.

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