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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    It's not that I doubt her - it's just tiresome having these "reportedly" a third party said that a second party said.... I don't actually KNOW that Fiona said that - but I guess she "reportedly" did.



    I'm "reportedly" already there, I just make an appearance here on occasion.



    You would have done well to have include that cite, sir.
    It’s a large file - I will try to find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    It’s a large file - I will try to find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtfloor View Post
    John Bolton called it a “drug deal”. What do you make of that?
    I think John Bolton's opinions are not worth the sliver of internet bandwidth it takes to read them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    I think John Bolton's opinions are not worth the sliver of internet bandwidth it takes to read them.
    You don't seem to have a very high opinion of Trump's "best people".

    Do you think Trump appoints the worst people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    John Bolton called it a “drug deal”. What do you make of that?
    If there really is a deep state, Bolton would be the quintessential definition of it.
    "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
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    Fiona Hill, transcript p71.
    And I went back to talk to Ambassador Bolton. And Ambassador Bolton asked me to go over and report this to our NSC counsel, to John Eisenberg. And he told me, and this is a direct quote from Ambassador Bolton: You go and tell Eisenberg that I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up on this, and you go and tell him what you've heard and what I've said. So I went over to talk to John Eisenberg about this.
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    He is guilty of serving major oligarchy families such as the Rockefellers. And this must be kept in secret. Guess who commissioned the murder of JFK back then. (Not the Rockeffellers. One of the oligarchy families).

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    I think in this next phase, defense witnesses are allowed. If there is to be an impeachment vote, I hear it is likely to happen before the Christmas break. I think they have decided that Nunes is too stupid to ask any more questions.
    The prosecutor, Lying Sack of Schiff, determines the witnesses the defense is allowed to call. He has already denied several.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    If there really is a deep state, Bolton would be the quintessential definition of it.
    Hardly. Bolton was a temporary appointee who came and went at Trump's order. That's about as shallow state as you can get.

    Deep state is where there is a network of long-serving entrenched government bureaucrats who continue following their own agreed-upon policies over time, perhaps coupled long-term with external companies who hold strong sway over part of the government, and who have contempt and disregard for the temporarily democratically elected politicians and political appointees who come and go, and who are not easily rooted out by any politician because they are career civil servants not political appointees and so will still hold their positions from one administration to the next.

    The best US exemplar of a deep state, is "the military-industrial complex". This has been an issue of concern in the US since Eisenhower first called attention to it, in which private US military contractors work hand in glove with bureaucrats inside the DoD and related departments, to push for endless government contracts to be given to particular private companies and to push for endless wars in which those private company's weapons are used thus requiring more to be bought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Hardly. Bolton was a temporary appointee who came and went at Trump's order. That's about as shallow state as you can get.

    Deep state is where there is a network of long-serving entrenched government bureaucrats who continue following their own agreed-upon policies over time, perhaps coupled long-term with external companies who hold strong sway over part of the government, and who have contempt and disregard for the temporarily democratically elected politicians and political appointees who come and go, and who are not easily rooted out by any politician because they are career civil servants not political appointees and so will still hold their positions from one administration to the next.

    The best US exemplar of a deep state, is "the military-industrial complex". This has been an issue of concern in the US since Eisenhower first called attention to it, in which private US military contractors work hand in glove with bureaucrats inside the DoD and related departments, to push for endless government contracts to be given to particular private companies and to push for endless wars in which those private company's weapons are used thus requiring more to be bought.
    And who does Bolton whore himself for?
    "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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