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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Amazing:
    The press is free to 'speech', and the public (and government figures) are free to ignore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    The press is free to 'speech', and the public (and government figures) are free to ignore.
    It is authoritarian censorship across all government agencies. The banana republic goes bananas.
    Only news favorable to the dear leader ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    It is authoritarian censorship across all government agencies. The banana republic goes bananas.
    Only news favorable to the dear leader ......
    You can get all the news you want digitally, ff. Come into the 21st century. Eliminate paper waste!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    His experience was getting kicked out of the military for doing cocaine and helping to start a company which focused on investing Chinese capital in companies based outside of China -- another job he had no qualifications for or experience in but that the Chinese government gladly poured hundreds of millions of dollars into turning it into one of the country's largest mutual fund management companies almost overnight.

    Now the other folks and groups that were involved in founding the company were definitely qualified but nobody has ever been able to explain what Hunter brought to the table -- except the Biden name. Sort of like his uncle in the article I linked to.

    So please explain how "that was the general field he was working in, and so seems to me to be perfectly adequately qualified."
    Hunter Biden graduated from Yale Law School, then worked at a banking company for 4 years where he quickly worked his way up to the senior management team. He then took a position as an economic adviser in the US Department of Commerce, then co-founded a lobbyist firm. He served on the board of Amtrack for 3 years. He resigned from his existing positions after his father became VP, to avoid any conflicts of interest, and went and worked at a law firm, and also founded a global venture capitalist firm. After five years of working for those firms, he made a brief attempt to be a Navy Reserve officer but was discharged after a month for testing positive for cocaine (which, if rumors are to be believed, enjoys a very high use rate among people in the US financial industries). He then founded another venture capitalist firm with a focus on the investment of Chinese money abroad. A year later he agreed to serve on the board of Burisma.

    So his CV going into the Burisma board job ticked the five boxes that people are usually looking for when they select people to serve on boards:
    - Past experience serving on a board (3 years on the board of Amtrack)
    - Legal knowledge (Legal degree + 5 years working as a lawyer)
    - Experience in company management (worked in the senior management team of a banking company, founded multiple companies of his own)
    - Experience in how companies are funded (worked with venture capitalist firms, a banking firm, a legal firm, founded his own companies)
    - Has a web of personal contacts that might be useful to the company with regard to working with other companies going forward (worked with numerous people over the years in banking, his law firm, his venture capitalist firms)

    In this case, the company owner also wanted famous board members to give the appearance of stability at a time when Russia was taking bites out of Ukraine. In that sense, Hunter Biden getting the job due to being famous is no worse that a celebrity getting a job to appear in an advertisement due to being famous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    You can get all the news you want digitally, ff. Come into the 21st century. Eliminate paper waste!!!


    But you won't be able to line the bottom of your birdcage with the Washington Post.
    You are a witness to the attempted murder of your democracy by Donald J Trump and the right-wing propaganda machine. I think you need to take this ongoing crime a little more seriously. History and God Himself will judge you too if you neglect your country in its hour of need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Jim Jordan is one of those masters of debate who can strike a fatal blow so quickly that his opponent doesn't know he's bleeding until it's too late.
    Gym Jordan should resign in shame for all the years over which he deliberately turned a blind eye to complaint after complaint about the sexual molestation of children occurring in the gym where he coached. What scum. The Republican party doesn't merely have the Dennis Hasterts of the world, it also has the Hastert-enablers, like Gym Jordan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    You are a witness to the attempted murder of your democracy by Donald J Trump and the right-wing propaganda machine. I think you need to take this ongoing crime a little more seriously. History and God Himself will judge you too if you neglect your country in its hour of need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtfloor View Post
    It is authoritarian censorship across all government agencies. The banana republic goes bananas.
    Only news favorable to the dear leader ......
    People are free to buy their own newspapers to line the bottom of their bird cages. The president is not obligated to provide them.
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    The evidence and testimony is pretty clear that the President didn't commit a crime, so Democrats are again trying to change horses midstream. The new narrative is that Trump is guilty of "attempted crimes".

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...uster-hearing/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Hunter Biden graduated from Yale Law School, then worked at a banking company for 4 years where he quickly worked his way up to the senior management team. He then took a position as an economic adviser in the US Department of Commerce, then co-founded a lobbyist firm. He served on the board of Amtrack for 3 years. He resigned from his existing positions after his father became VP, to avoid any conflicts of interest, and went and worked at a law firm, and also founded a global venture capitalist firm. After five years of working for those firms, he made a brief attempt to be a Navy Reserve officer but was discharged after a month for testing positive for cocaine (which, if rumors are to be believed, enjoys a very high use rate among people in the US financial industries). He then founded another venture capitalist firm with a focus on the investment of Chinese money abroad. A year later he agreed to serve on the board of Burisma.

    So his CV going into the Burisma board job ticked the five boxes that people are usually looking for when they select people to serve on boards:
    - Past experience serving on a board (3 years on the board of Amtrack)
    - Legal knowledge (Legal degree + 5 years working as a lawyer)
    - Experience in company management (worked in the senior management team of a banking company, founded multiple companies of his own)
    - Experience in how companies are funded (worked with venture capitalist firms, a banking firm, a legal firm, founded his own companies)
    - Has a web of personal contacts that might be useful to the company with regard to working with other companies going forward (worked with numerous people over the years in banking, his law firm, his venture capitalist firms)

    In this case, the company owner also wanted famous board members to give the appearance of stability at a time when Russia was taking bites out of Ukraine. In that sense, Hunter Biden getting the job due to being famous is no worse that a celebrity getting a job to appear in an advertisement due to being famous.
    And you're going to pretend that none of his CV was influenced by the fact that his father was a US Senator?

    Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline

    From being appointed senior MBNA vice president (two years out of law school), to a gift of a 2.8-carat diamond from a Chinese energy tycoon, to Burisma Holdings . . .



    Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline
    By Jim Geraghty

    September 30, 2019 6:30 AM

    From being appointed senior MBNA vice president (two years out of law school), to a gift of a 2.8-carat diamond from a Chinese energy tycoon, to Burisma Holdings . . .

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    Late Summer 2006: Hunter Biden and his uncle, James Biden, purchase the hedge fund Paradigm Global Advisors. According to an unnamed executive quoted in Politico in August, James Biden declared to employees on his first day, “Don’t worry about investors. We’ve got people all around the world who want to invest in Joe Biden.” At this time, Joe Biden is months away from becoming chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and launching his second bid for president.

    The unnamed executive who spoke to Politico charged that the purchase of the fund was designed to work around campaign-finance laws:

    According to the executive, James Biden made it clear that he viewed the fund as a way to take money from rich foreigners who could not legally give money to his older brother or his campaign account. “We’ve got investors lined up in a line of 747s filled with cash ready to invest in this company,” the executive remembers James Biden saying.

    Both James and Hunter Biden have denied to Politico that James had ever made these comments.

    Up until that time, Hunter Biden had been employed as a consultant to the Delaware bank MBNA, with a $100,000-a-year retainer, according to the New York Times. The bank hired him fresh out of law school and in less than two years promoted him to senior vice president. Biden also separately worked as a lobbyist until 2008, founding the firm Oldaker Biden & Belair, where he represented mostly universities and hospitals but also drug companies such as Achaogen Inc. and Pulmatrix Inc., and the music-sharing company Napster and online gambling sites.

    Hunter says he has never lobbied his father on any client matter. But the potential for the appearance of a conflict of interest allegedly troubled the senator at one point. According to court records in a lawsuit filed by former business partner Joseph Lotito, Joe Biden wanted Hunter Biden to find a different line of work because his presidential campaign would be greatly complicated if he remained the father of a Washington lobbyist.

    January 5, 2007: Lotito sues James and Hunter Biden, contending that they cut him out of the purchase of Paradigm Global Advisors. Lotito’s suit claims that the firm is paying Hunter Biden an annual salary of $1.2 million. While Biden has worked for MBNA, he has never worked for a hedge fund or investment firm before....


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