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"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWell, if you understand that one side is wrong here and the other is right, then you should also understand that it isn't all just politics.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostMost of the witnesses were nothing more than links in the gossip train who testified that they had no personal or direct knowledge but were merely passing on hear-say. And those like Sondland who were the origin of some of these "heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend, who heard it from another" grapevines had to admit that what they said was based on "presumptions," "guesses" and the like.
Worse. Sondland even confirmed that Trump had explicitly and expressly told him that he did not want anything in exchange -- any quid pro quo. He testified that he had directly called Trump in order to find out why the aid was being delayed. "I asked the president, ‘What do you want from Ukraine?’" Sondland declared. "The president responded, ‘Nothing. There is no quid pro.’"
Sondland confirmed that Trump had told him that "I want nothing. I don’t want to give them anything, and I don’t want anything from them."
This is the nature and quality of the "evidence" that you are building this house of cards upon.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's just silly. Regardless of who's right and who's wrong, both sides are playing to their base. It's all about politics.Last edited by JimL; 11-30-2019, 06:09 PM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, that statement is what's silly. If one side is right, then they aren't just playing to their base, they're doing what's right.Last edited by Starlight; 11-30-2019, 06:15 PM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIt's amazing how quickly right-wingers embrace post-modernism with regard to there being no such thing as truth, or criminal guilt, when the truth is inconvenient to them.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAs Col. Jessup said in a Few Good Men "They can't handle the truth." They just can't!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, that statement is what's silly. If one side is right, then they aren't just playing to their base, they're doing what's right.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd you remember where the good Colonel ended up, yes? (and, actually, he said "YOU can't handle the truth")Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd you buy the liberal talking points that assure you that the Democrats are right. They're going after impeachment because they see it as a way to get even for losing the 2016 election. They will proceed (or not) entirely on political expediency.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd you buy the liberal talking points that assure you that the Democrats are right.
They're going after impeachment because they see it as a way to get even for losing the 2016 election. They will proceed (or not) entirely on political expediency.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostMaybe Jimmy forgot that Col. Jessup wasn't the hero of that movie, and that the truth was that he committed criminal acts in his misguided attempts to instill a sense of discipline and loyalty in his men.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe Democrat party is afraid they won't be able to beat Trump at the ballot box, so they're trying to beat him in the (kangaroo) courtroom.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostAs anyone who has been watching the impeachment hearings is well aware, your statements are false.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThen there was Yovanovitch who was repeatedly asked about her "feelings".“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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