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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostCP - I'm trying very hard not to make this a big deal. I am not trying to provoke anything with you, and I'm not talking to you any differently than I would in person.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNo - It's not MM. But that you do not/will not understand it's not the same goes to many of the difficulties we have communicating.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe problem is that you're so vested in spinning the narrative, and you've been doing it for do long, that you don't even realize you're doing it any more.
What you fail to understand is that Trump is so off the rails on things that are significantly and dangerously negative, as I see it, it significantly outweighs any of the positive. But if that were the reverse, I would not be against him. It is not Trump, it is what Trump is doing and how he is doing it.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWhat you fail to understand is that Trump is so off the rails on things that are significantly and dangerously negative, as I see it, it significantly outweighs any of the positive.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostRight. As you "see it". That's exactly my point.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHad the Democrats gone about this in anything but a deranged "Get Trump at ALL COSTS" manner, it would be a whole different ballgame. The very fact that they have one of the most partisan anti-Trump liberals being both "judge" and "prosecutor" in the impeachment hearings suggests this, indeed, is pretty much a witch hunt.
Trump is indeed blessed by the caliber of his opponents.Last edited by rogue06; 11-18-2019, 01:44 PM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThis goes back to the panel of Democratic consultants I saw on TV (Bloomberg IIRC) saying that if it hadn't been for Schiff and how he has conducted himself there probably would have been a couple of Republicans (especially among those retiring and who dislike Trump) who would likely have joined the Democrats with the impeachment inquiry vote.
Trump is indeed blessed by the caliber of his opponents.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostEGGzackly. If the Democrats were truly interested in "working the problem", they wouldn't have put their most rabid partisan in charge.
But yeah. It was a very deliberate move on Pelosi's part to allow Schiff's committee to be in charge of the investigation since that has never been part of the Intelligence Committee purview prior to this. You really have to wonder what was going through her head when she agreed to this. Did she want it to fail?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWellll... Maybe second most when you include good ol' Mad Max[ine] Waters. IIRC she was calling for Trump to be impeached before he was even sworn in.
But yeah. It was a very deliberate move on Pelosi's part to allow Schiff's committee to be in charge of the investigation since that has never been part of the Intelligence Committee purview prior to this. You really have to wonder what was going through her head when she agreed to this. Did she want it to fail?
schiff bug eyes.jpgThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNow THAT would qualify as a CIRCUS!
And to make him both "judge" AND "chief prosecutor" is an absolute abuse of power. It's enough to make one's eyes bug out!
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post[ATTACH=CONFIG]40955[/ATTACH]The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think it's possible that, if Schiff weren't being such a jackass in this, Trump would be in much more trouble than he is.
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Originally posted by whag View PostI agree with you. I also believe that had Trump been a tiny bit less of a jackass—if he hadn’t asked Comey for loyalty and Ukraine for a favor—he’d have tons more leverage as a politician. Those two things gave impeachment talk credibility.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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