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  • #16
    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
    I get it, you're a hardcore Trump fan.
    No, Trump is a moderate on issues like gay marriage, abortion, and is very much a moderate compared to these Gen Z kids I'm talking about. These want to shut down immigration altogether.

    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Nah. Charles is plenty smart. You're just jealous that he's a better troll than you are.
    Oh look, more triggered ankle-biting.
    Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
      Oh look, more triggered ankle-biting.
      Pfft. Proof that Charles is running circles around you.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
        Pfft. Proof that Charles is running circles around you.
        Get out of this thread until you have anything substantive to say about anything related - Gen Z conservatives, Buckley, the history and nature of conservatism, Shapiro. Get out until you get your triggeredness under control.
        Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
          No,
          Then why did you cite only criticism of Trump as the reason that Ben Shapiro is a "fake" Conservative?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
            Get out of this thread until you have anything substantive to say about anything related - Gen Z conservatives, Buckley, the history and nature of conservatism, Shapiro. Get out until you get your triggeredness under control.
            You can't kick me out and simultaneously attack me while doing so, champ.
            Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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            • #21
              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              You can't kick me out and simultaneously attack me while doing so, champ.
              I forget how the rules for kicking people out are. Leave now.
              Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                Then why did you cite only criticism of Trump as the reason that Ben Shapiro is a "fake" Conservative?
                Can't you read?

                "Daily Wire is a Hollywood-produced act to spout whatever is the popular “Respectable Conservative” opinion of the day, which in turn leads to clicks and page views, and thus revenue. “He was hardcore ‘Never Trump’ and pretends to be pro-Trump now that it’s clear that going full Never Trump makes you a [Bill] Kristol or [Evan] McMullin,”


                Blowing with the wind, he was anti-Trump when his donors wanted him to be, and now pretends to be pro-Trump to retain his audience.""

                The big reason originally cited is that Shapiro blows with the wind, ergo he's not principled, ergo he's not a real conservative.

                For that matter, CP and other conservative here criticise Trump, and they are still conservatives. It's not about criticism of Trump, read more closely next time.
                Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                • #23
                  That's uselessly vague demiconservative, the only thing on point in the article is criticism of Trump. Otherwise you just have a "He wasn't offensive enough" complaint.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                    That's uselessly vague demiconservative, the only thing on point in the article is criticism of Trump.
                    It's a pretty good illustration that he'll say whatever Conservative Inc wants him to say, and that he's unprincipled. Can't help that you're in denial.

                    Otherwise you just have a "He wasn't offensive enough" complaint.
                    A baseless smear, at least not on the the ankle-biting 'Nazi nazi!!!!!' level of KingsGambit.
                    Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                      I forget how the rules for kicking people out are. Leave now.
                      Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                        It's a pretty good illustration that he'll say whatever Conservative Inc wants him to say
                        But you only offered points that were him criticizing Trump. Is that really it?

                        Originally posted by Leonhard
                        Otherwise you just have a "He wasn't offensive enough" complaint.
                        A baseless smear
                        Not really, until you've offered something more substantial. I shouldn't have to coax it out of you over several posts, you should know what you believe in, what principles you think Conservatism stands for and why Ben Shapiro until pretends at that.

                        So far you've only given me "Criticized Trump" and "Not offensive enough / Too mainstream"

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                          But you only offered points that were him criticizing Trump. Is that really it?
                          Why can't you acknowledge that makes him untrustworthy, that he has an obvious pattern from early neoconnery of saying what the big donors to conservatism want him to say? That should be enough.

                          Again, that should be enough, but of course there's more. Conservatives support the ideal of free speech, which extends beyond the First Amendement regulating that governments can't prosecute it, but Shapiro is all for targeting "real racists" and hurting their careers.

                          I shouldn't have to coax it out of you over several posts, you should know what you believe in, what principles you think Conservatism stands for and why Ben Shapiro until pretends at that.
                          If you're capable of attentive reading, which you're apparently not, I obviously depart from conservatism on so many areas that I'm not a conservative, which in essence is classical liberalism. I'm a traditionalist.
                          Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                            If you're capable of attentive reading, which you're apparently not, I obviously depart from conservatism on so many areas that I'm not a conservative, which in essence is classical liberalism. I'm a traditionalist.
                            How do I submit a request for name-change to 'centi-conservative'?
                            Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                              But you only offered points that were him criticizing Trump. Is that really it?
                              Why can't you acknowledge that makes him untrustworthy, that he has an obvious pattern from early neoconnery of saying what the big donors to conservatism want him to say?
                              Firstly because there's nothing inherently contrary to traditionalism or conservatism in offering critiquing the powers that be. Secondly because there's plenty about Trump one could criticize, but thankfully his presidency has turned out to be not what one could have feared.

                              Conservatives support the ideal of free speech, which extends beyond the First Amendement regulating that governments can't prosecute it, but Shapiro is all for targeting "real racists" and hurting their careers.
                              Criticizing people, even in ways that end up hurting their careers have nothing to do with the First Amendment of the US constitution, nor is it a free speech issue.

                              I'm not a conservative... I'm a traditionalist.
                              That makes sense. Good luck with that. I've got several scholarly friends who are white-wing Conservatives. Basically conservatives who pine for the monarchy, and a stronger military. Had some good pub discussions with them.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                                Firstly because there's nothing inherently contrary to traditionalism or conservatism in offering critiquing the powers that be. Secondly because there's plenty about Trump one could criticize, but thankfully his presidency has turned out to be not what one could have feared.
                                You have a mindblock here for some reason. Like I said, CP and others are conservatives even though they criticise Trump. Shapiro is not a principled conservative because he blows with the wind, and I shouldn't have to keep repeating myself on this.

                                Criticizing people, even in ways that end up hurting their careers have nothing to do with the First Amendment of the US constitution, nor is it a free speech issue.
                                The difference is that he wants to 'target' them and intentionally get them fired.

                                That makes sense. Good luck with that. I've got several scholarly friends who are white-wing Conservatives. Basically conservatives who pine for the monarchy, and a stronger military. Had some good pub discussions with them.
                                They may yet see it in their lifetimes. Yes, I know Denmark is an exception as we discussed, but look all across Europe.
                                Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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