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Originally posted by seer View PostWhat good are they when the enemy doesn't follow them?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe more I read on this, and I'm considering the sources when I read, the more it appears that it's a problem resulting very much from the fact that we wear uniforms and present as soldiers, and the enemy wears civilian clothes, moves in and out of the civilian population, and presents as non-combatants to do combat.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI agree. I am no longer surprised to see the relativism some twebbers support.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostYep in certain cases, you need to read what the Japanese soldiers did to American captives, including cannibalism, using live Marines as bayonet practice, cutting of their genitals and a slew of other horrible things. Read "With the Old Breed" or "A Helmet For My Pillow." After what happen on Guadalcanal all bets were off.
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Originally posted by seer View PostWhere is the relativism?
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Originally posted by seer View PostThe point is we put these young men (mostly teenagers) in very dangerous situations and expect then not to over react, or not to get pay back after losing friends. This is not bean bag it is WAR.
In the case of our military, obviously, they are surrounded by FAR MORE potentially lethal adversaries dressed as civilians than our police officers.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostSo, you are seriously suggesting that one should shoot surrendering soldiers. And your arguments are they did worse (which is relativism) and then you suggest I read some books instead of providing sound arguments. Worth keeping in mind the next time you are suggesting God as a foundation for ethics. I have often pointed out that you are heading in the wrong direction and now you are completely of track.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostYou mean the God that ordered the Hebrews to kill every man, woman and child? Or like our firebombing of Tokyo? And my argument is that if the enemy does not follow the rules of war it is not incumbent on us to. Why would it be?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIf one keeps changing the rules, what good are they?
To the specifics of these cases, I do not know. I was addressing the general issue of shooting POW's or surrendering combatants. Our laws prohibit the killing of POW's or combatants engaged in legitimate surrender. If we do not follow the laws because someone else broke them, we are no better than they are.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt's very much the same as with our police officers, except on a much more grand scale. We train them, arm them, send them out to protect us, but if things don't go exactly according to plan, lock 'em up!
In the case of our military, obviously, they are surrounded by FAR MORE potentially lethal adversaries dressed as civilians than our police officers.
But in the case of the military where the rules have been around for decades, you follow the rules. And if you don't enforce them, you'll have lawlessness. Again, as to the specifics of these cases, I do not know what we actually have. I can say I would not Trust Trump's judgement on it - he's not a person that thinks deeply about anything. And the fact the Pentagon warned him not to act is significant and not in his favor. But at the same time, I think a lot of times our Police and our Military get a raw deal from our politicians and activists.
But without more info, I don't really have a strong opinion at this point.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Charles View PostBased on your complete lack of anything decent to hold onto there it is no wonder you cannot see it. Perhaps your justification pointing to the God that ordered the Hebrews to kill every man, woman and child could serve as a wake up call but I seriously doubt it.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostI'm not sure what your problem is, why would we be compelled to follow the rules of war when our enemy didn't? How does that make sense? Do you believe that the firebombing of Tokyo was a war crime?My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostBecause we have ideals, morals, are a civilized people that recognize anarchy and lawlessness are not viable options.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion.../#.XdLxQVdKiM8Last edited by seer; 11-18-2019, 01:30 PM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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