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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostStating facts as admitted by the witness himself is now considered a "smear"?
Since I've handled classified information, I agree with your assessment.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI suspect he's referring to "Frankly, this guy sounds like a serious security risk. "Loose lips sink ships" and all that."
Since I've handled classified information, I agree with your assessment.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostSo If I hear a conversation, and someone wants to know the content of the conversation I heard, then I am an EYEWITNESS as to what the content of the conversation was.
No, you're an earwitness.
[/nitpick]Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThat wasn't intended as a "smear" at any rate. It was simply my gut reaction to a guy who admitted to cavalierly sharing information about a privileged phone conversation between one of his colleagues and the president. That he can't remember who he talked to or what he told them is concerning. The fact that Sondland was having this conversation over a cell phone while sitting in a public restaurant in the Ukraine and that the conversation was apparently loud enough that those nearby could hear it is another matter.
I note that while you're criticising the aide for sharing details of a conversation, while not criticising those engaged in conversation for having it in public.Last edited by Roy; 11-19-2019, 10:23 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI suspect he's referring to "Frankly, this guy sounds like a serious security risk. "Loose lips sink ships" and all that."
Since I've handled classified information, I agree with your assessment.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View PostIt's not another matter, since it indicates the conversation either wasn't privileged, or the conversers were acting even more cavalierly.
I note that while you're criticising the aide for sharing details of an overheard conversation, while not criticising those engaged in conversation for allowing it to be overheard.
You also seem to be suggesting that Trump is somehow to blame, but there is nothing to suggest that Trump was aware of the circumstances in which Sondland took the call.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Roy View PostTrump/Sondland aren't exactly coming off cleanly here either.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's not another matter, since it indicates the conversation either wasn't privileged, or the conversers were acting even more cavalierly.
I note that while you're criticising the aide for sharing details of an overheard conversation, while not criticising those engaged in conversation for allowing it to be overheard.
You also seem to be suggesting that Trump is somehow to blame, but there is nothing to suggest that Trump was aware of the circumstances in which Sondland took the call.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View PostSo you're calling me ignorant and saying I don't know what I'm talking about while agreeing with me! You truly are an idiot.
Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View PostIf Trump really was engaging in privileged conversation then he certainly was to blame for not first confirming that he couldn't be overheard.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI didn't agree with you. You suggested that the conversation may not have been privileged.We have no idea what Trump did or didn't confirm, or what Sondland might have told him.
You're bending so far backwards your spine could power a watch.Last edited by Roy; 11-19-2019, 11:37 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View PostPoppycock. (A or B) -/-> p(A) > 0. Go take a course in logic. So in your efforts to absolve Trump of any possible blame in holding a supposedly privileged conversation with some-one in a public restaurant, you're not going to rule out the possibility that Trump asked Sondland whether the call was secure and Sondland, in a public restaurant where others were not only listening but apparently taking notes, said that it was.
You're bending so far backwards your spine could power a watch.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWe have no idea what Trump did or didn't confirm, or what Sondland might have told him.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View PostWrong. You might have no idea that Trump didn't confirm whether Sondland was in a restaurant or that Sondland might have told Trump that he was in a lead-lined vat of rancid yoghurt. But your lack of ideas doesn't apply to the rest of us.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostOh, so you know what Trump did or didn't confirm, and what Sondland told him?Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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