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Dem. Congressman says party's impeachment investigation is "fracturing the nation"
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostFor many voters come election day they'll think, what has Trump done for us, and think about things like a booming economy, record low unemployment rates, renegotiated trade deals etc. Then they'll think about what the Democrats have provided and think about impeachment, impeachment, impeachment etc.
(For some strange reason it reminded me of Ginger Rogers doing everything Fred Astaire did, only backward and in high heels)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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So, what about this statement?
It has shaken me that we stand at the brink of removing a President — not because of a popular groundswell to remove him and not because of the magnitude of the wrongs he’s committed — but because conditions in early 21st century America have made it possible for a small group of people who hate Donald Trump and hate his policies to very cleverly and very doggedly exploit the institutions of freedom that we hold dear and almost succeed in undoing him.
Most troubling to me are the conditions that allowed this to happen, than the small group who precipitated them.
The small group is not the House Managers or particular officeholders of the Democrat party.
It is the small group of lawyers and zealots who decided that they would invest time and money to exploit a personal weakness that people knew the President had, find a case to air it publicly, investigate the President’s life to the point of obsession, and use it to bring him down.
Doesn't that describe what's happening today?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo, what about this statement?
It has shaken me that we stand at the brink of removing a President — not because of a popular groundswell to remove him and not because of the magnitude of the wrongs he’s committed — but because conditions in early 21st century America have made it possible for a small group of people who hate Donald Trump and hate his policies to very cleverly and very doggedly exploit the institutions of freedom that we hold dear and almost succeed in undoing him.
Most troubling to me are the conditions that allowed this to happen, than the small group who precipitated them.
The small group is not the House Managers or particular officeholders of the Democrat party.
It is the small group of lawyers and zealots who decided that they would invest time and money to exploit a personal weakness that people knew the President had, find a case to air it publicly, investigate the President’s life to the point of obsession, and use it to bring him down.
Doesn't that describe what's happening today?
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostNot really since the move to remove trump is based on the magnitude of the wrongs he has committed.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThis is often a step on the journey to realizing that "the party" has left the politician.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe fracture was well under way before Trump was elected.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYeah, with the 'no compromise' extreme right wing evangelical club in Congress.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWell Trump has given them what they want regarding a conservative judiciary that may well overturn RvW and LGBT rights. This is all that matters to this lot - power at any cost.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostDoes it make you feel good to babble dishonest foolishness?
"Trump was staunchly pro-choice until he sought to become President Donald Trump. From that moment on, a centerpiece of his campaign was a promise to do whatever he could to ensure that the 1973 supreme court’s landmark decision in Roe v Wade that guaranteed a woman’s right to an abortion would be overturned. He has kept his promise and his base loves him for it. He undoubtedly believes that his strong and now unwavering anti-abortion stance will go a long way to ensuring his re-election in 2020".
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e-court-judges“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYa think?
Trump knows that his Christian conservative base can be bought and this is cynically just what he's done.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
We're using him. But don't tell him - he doesn't know it.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostActually Trump is using you and he knows exactly how to manipulate the Christian right.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYeah, with the 'no compromise' extreme right wing evangelical club in Congress.
After Republicans swept into power in the House in 2010 Obama had to ask staffers for the phone numbers for their leadership since he never bothered to call them in the previous two years.
Last edited by rogue06; 01-21-2020, 02:36 AM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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