Why Did Impeachment Hearings Fail?

[Cow Poke]

Chief Justice of the SCOTUS, John G. Roberts Jr., who I'm willing to bet will have little tolerance for the sort of behavior exhibited in the House.

Let's count the number of times he says "I recognize myself" and "The gentleman/gentlewoman will suspend".

[Cow Poke]

Rep. Brenda Lawrence signals a possible exit strategy.

We are so close to an election. I will tell you, sitting here knowing how divided this country is, I don’t see the value of taking him out of office. I do see the value of putting down a marker saying his behavior is not acceptable.

I want to censure. I want it on the record that the House of Representatives did their job and they told this president and any president coming behind him that this is unacceptable behavior and, under our Constitution, we will not allow it.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...out-of-office/

Yeah, there are hints that other Democrats, perhaps not completely afflicted with TDS, are considering alternatives to continuing the PROCESS.

[Charles]

A) It's my thread.
2) As I said....

So, you can go off topic and those who disagree with you will have to stay on topic. Very convenient way to discuss a topic (especially if you cannot really support it).

[Cow Poke]

So, you can go off topic and those who disagree with you will have to stay on topic. Very convenient way to discuss a topic (especially if you cannot really support it).

Nobody is going to keep you from going off topic, Charles. It's your specialty.

[Charles]

Charles, please take your load of horsie poo to some other thread -- this one is about the impeachment PROCESS.

Nobody is going to keep you from going off topic, Charles. It's your specialty.

Please see if you can at the very least be consistent...

[Cow Poke]

Please see if you can at the very least be consistent...

I'm actually very consistent, Charles....

That first quote was me politely asking you to take your derail elsewhere.
The second quote was me acknowledging that's not gonna happen, as you are currently demonstrating.

I COULD officially ask you, as owner of the thread, to leave, but there's a certain amount of entertainment value you bring.

[Littlejoe]

Please see if you can at the very least be consistent...

The OP of a thread has more discretion than the participants of a thread. If a thread goes off topic, even if the diversion was caused by a remark by the OP, the OP can request it be disregarded by others and to return to the topic. You as a participant have the option of disregarding the diversion (which was the OP's request) and returning to the topic or leaving the thread. Continuing to derail is NOT one of the options.

[Cow Poke]

So, some Dems are still trying to figure out what they think about moving forward with impeachment...


Swing State Dem Flips on Impeachment

In this article, Rep. Brenda Lawrence (D-MI) seems to flip on her former opinion, then flips on that opinion, and flips yet again in an "update"...

Not all Dems are gung ho about handing this over to the Senate.

[Charles]

I'm actually very consistent, Charles....

That first quote was me politely asking you to take your derail elsewhere.

Politely asking as in:

Charles, please take your load of horsie poo to some other thread -- this one is about the impeachment PROCESS.

But then again, you are actually very consistent

[Cow Poke]

Politely asking as in:

Yes, I said please. Anything else, Charles?

But then again, you are actually very consistent

Yes. Yes, I am.

Ready to comment on anything "on topic"?

[Charles]

Ready to comment on anything "on topic"?

Yes. I think this sums it up: “That is beyond anything Nixon did." Adam Schiff

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ne/3919128002/

[rogue06]

Let's count the number of times he says "I recognize myself" and "The gentleman/gentlewoman will suspend".

Or interrupt testimony so that he can tell the witness what they mean.

[Cow Poke]

Yes. I think this sums it up: “That is beyond anything Nixon did." Adam Schiff

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ne/3919128002/

Actually, that's not on topic, either, Charles. This is about whether the PROCESS will move forward, and how.

Lemme refresh your memory, please...

OK, so maybe you think they didn't, but something happened.

Was it Schiff's handling of the thing, being too controlling? (That's my personal choice, given that the made himself judge, jury, chief prosecutor AND media liaison.

Is, as has been suggested elsewhere on this board, that Americans are just stupid?

Current polling (and that may change) suggests the Democrats actually LOST ground by having public hearings.

Didn't they put on their most vigorous prosecution?
Didn't they call their best witnesses?

Since impeachment is entirely a political process (in that it's run by politicians, and, in this case, is incredibly partisan) what could the Democrats have done differently to persuade America to support them in their impeachment prosecution, instead, appearing to convince Americans NOT to support impeachment?

For Bonus Points... well, let's put that in a poll...

And, CNN's most current polling shows NO CHANGE in the view of Americans on the need for the PROCESS to continue.

[rogue06]

The OP of a thread has more discretion than the participants of a thread. If a thread goes off topic, even if the diversion was caused by a remark by the OP, the OP can request it be disregarded by others and to return to the topic. You as a participant have the option of disregarding the diversion (which was the OP's request) and returning to the topic or leaving the thread. Continuing to derail is NOT one of the options.

I may add that if anyone finds the derail compelling they are perfectly free to start another thread and continue along that line.

[Cow Poke]

I may add that if Charles found the derail compelling he is perfectly free to start another thread and continue along that line.

I'm beginning to think that might be necessary. He just kaint seem to hepp hisseff.