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Why Did Impeachment Hearings Fail?
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYup this was all about putting pressure on Republican officials and it didn't work at all. Instead of building something they can call bipartisan support for impeachment what we have instead is bipartisan support against impeachment.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostNot everyone is like you, happy to toss over 200 years of jurisprudence out the window, just to get someone you despise. Some of us demand actual evidence, not second, third and even fourth hand hearsay. And some of us understand that what little direct evidence and even circumstantial evidence there is tends to exonerate Trump.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThere is first hand testimony for the criminal offences that Trump committed for the impeachment....
ThanksThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostIt is likely to be Pelosi rather than Schiff who is in charge of developments. They already know that a Senate trial would elevate Trump and they do not want to give him that victory. He will gloat anyway but damaging material will continue to flow.
The story will be developed further in the press. Rudy and Pompeo might end up in deep trouble.
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI guess that's your way of saying that Schiff and his impeachment inquiry blew it and are D.O.A. so you're now hoping that someone else eventually uncovers this elusive "proof" that y'all keep looking for.
But, no, they launched their hearings thinking they had a slam dunk and would convince America to oust Trump. They're not done yet.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThere outta be a double-jeopardy statute for impeachment. "OK, you guys gave it your best shot, now take down the tent and GET BACK TO WORK!!!!"
But, no, they launched their hearings thinking they had a slam dunk and would convince America to oust Trump. They're not done yet.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostDemocrats have indicated that they think they have multiple grounds on which to impeach Trump, so I wonder if they're going to slow roll this thing by releasing one article of impeachment, seeing if it sticks, release the next one, rinse and repeat.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThere outta be a double-jeopardy statute for impeachment. "OK, you guys gave it your best shot, now take down the tent and GET BACK TO WORK!!!!"
But, no, they launched their hearings thinking they had a slam dunk and would convince America to oust Trump. They're not done yet.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostImpeachment has not started yet - this is just an obstructed investigation.
More pressure to be applied to the delinquent executives.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe Democrats sure seem to think it has.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostNo, they have to draw up articles of impeachment and take a vote. If the vote passes, Trump is impeached, and not before. What is clear is that the US Congress is being bullied by Trump, and they don’t have an answer to that yet. The US seems unable to defend itself against an autocrat like Trump.
And, if Trump were, indeed, impeached on an incredibly partisan vote in the House*, he would probably have less than a snowball's chance of surviving in the Hot Place of being removed from office in the Senate.
*likely zero Republicans voting yes and probably some Democrats voting noThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post...you might want to be more clear about your claim that Trump is bulling "the US Congress"...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostTypo, or Freudian slip?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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