Trump Distances Himself from Guiliani

[JimL]

Again, the impression that has been presented in a number of interviews and in the investigative report I referenced is that while Giuliani was working on Trump's behalf, he was not acting on any specific instructions from the President. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

Yes, we have evidence, but you will never see it.

[Mountain Man]

Yes, we have evidence, but you will never see it.

And that evidence is...?

[Mountain Man]

He mentioned Guiliani in the Zelenskyy phone call...

So what? He also mentioned AG Barr:

"I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people, and I would like to get to the bottom of it." ... "I will ask [Mr. Giuliani] to call you along with the Attorney General ... whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great." ... "I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call, and I am also going to have attorney General Barr call, and we will get to the bottom of it." ... "I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...d-the-document

Again, the question is whether or not Giuliani was acting on specific instruction from the President. Everything I can find suggests that he was not. From the report I referenced earlier:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...erture-to-rudy

So again, the facts seem to indicate that while Giuliani was working on behalf of his client, he was not acting on specific instructions.

[JimL]

Yes, we have evidence, but you will never see it.

It's been in front of your face MM, and repeated to you ad infinitum, so if you fail to see it still, then you ain't ever going to see it. Again, there are none so blind as..........brainwashed cult members.

[Mountain Man]

It's been in front of your face MM, and repeated to you ad infinitum, so if you fail to see it still, then you ain't ever going to see it. Again, there are none so blind as..........brainwashed cult members.

I see... so I state facts and cite sources, and all you have in response are insults.

I'll let others decide which of us has presented the stronger argument.

[oxmixmudd]

So what? He also mentioned AG Barr:

"I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people, and I would like to get to the bottom of it." ... "I will ask [Mr. Giuliani] to call you along with the Attorney General ... whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great." ... "I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call, and I am also going to have attorney General Barr call, and we will get to the bottom of it." ... "I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...d-the-document

Again, the question is whether or not Giuliani was acting on specific instruction from the President. Everything I can find suggests that he was not. From the report I referenced earlier:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...erture-to-rudy

So again, the facts seem to indicate that while Giuliani was working on behalf of his client, he was not acting on specific instructions.

So sad ...

[JimL]

I see... so I state facts and cite sources, and all you have in response are insults.

I'll let others decide which of us has presented the stronger argument.

No, you've already seen the evidence, you're not a complete dunce, at some level you know Trump is guilty, because, following it as you do, knowing the evidence as you do, you'd have to be a complete idiot not to know. And that tells me that there is no amount, absolutely no amount of evidence, that is ever going to cause you to admit to yourself, what deep down, you already know, i.e. that Trump is corrupt, that he violated the law, the Constitution, and that he abused the power of his office

[whag]

So what? He also mentioned AG Barr:

"I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people, and I would like to get to the bottom of it." ... "I will ask [Mr. Giuliani] to call you along with the Attorney General ... whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great." ... "I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call, and I am also going to have attorney General Barr call, and we will get to the bottom of it." ... "I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...d-the-document

Again, the question is whether or not Giuliani was acting on specific instruction from the President. Everything I can find suggests that he was not. From the report I referenced earlier:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...erture-to-rudy

So again, the facts seem to indicate that while Giuliani was working on behalf of his client, he was not acting on specific instructions.

[Mountain Man]

I really don't know enough about the Giuliani situation to draw any conclusions, but I do find it curious that the Feds are turning up the heat on Trump's legal team just as the Department of Justice is preparing to strike back against the coup. I can't convince myself that the timing is coincidental.

[whag]

I really don't know enough about the Giuliani situation to draw any conclusions, but I do find it curious that the Feds are turning up the heat on Trump's legal team just as the Department of Justice is preparing to strike back against the coup. I can't convince myself that the timing is coincidental.

[Mountain Man]

Whatever you say.

[oxmixmudd]

Yep. Because it's his cult this time dag nab it!

[Mountain Man]

Yep. Because it's his cult this time dag nab it!

Frankly, reactions like this say more about you than they do about me.

[whag]

Yep. Because it's his cult this time dag nab it!

[RumTumTugger]

Yes, we have evidence, but you will never see it.

If you have evidence Cite your source.